Lv7 - No Continue

I agree with you Scath. I upvoted before you but wanted to finish the dungeon before I posted a reply claiming it's easy lol. But yes! challenge Lv7 has always been a joke for Lucifer teams if you had some kind of bind rcv, and about an hour or so :)

But I just wanted to say that I would take something to counter bind on F1. If both Lucifers are bound, you're pretty much done for (it's kind of rare but I'm sure it happens). Also, it sounds like a lot of people still don't realize this, but Lucifer no longer needs an instant heal to use multiple MS on the same turn. Maybe the OP was downvoted for these 2 things? Who knows, downvoters seldom leave comments, if not to cuss at you.

I've always taken 3 gravities + Ceres and it's been pretty safe. It just takes a very long time. (I had to take down crystal skull with 3TPA's last time though, not doing that again...) And I save 2 gravities for F5. Maybe I should try taking Bane too so that I don't have to use a measuring tape on Sopdet.

Also, I don't see anything wrong with using Lucifer teams, or any other teams for that matter. It's your own game that you play on your own time. I'd say just use whatever you enjoy using. At my rank, I still use him and think he's pretty good for nonIAP players (with patience). As long as you calculate everything out first, you don't ever need to worry about dying. Just don't use him to farm stuff, unless maybe he's max skill.

People who down vote Luci builds just for the sake of downvoting is astounding to me, particularly given Silveus' strategy worked great for me.

Luci x2, G/D Ceres, D/D Hera, Hera I?S, Venome Enhanced Bane, all fully awoken.

The only difference is on Thoth, Sopdet, I grav x 3, 1x luci on Thoth, then charged up luci and graves for the finale. Sopdet gives plenty of hearts once Thoth is below 20% and no longer creates jammers/poison orbs.

[Edit: for Thoth, Sopdet, I actually used grav x2, 2xluci on Thoth, gravx4, luci on Thoth, ceres, luci on Sopdet. I It was the only way to guarantee Thoth would die from Luci cannon. You have to keep Sopdet above 20% to ensure a steady supply of hearts.]

I just tested and confirmed that you can fire two morning stars in a row without healing somewhat between them. When did that happen?

Anyways, that brings up a lot of options for how to run this. And if you willing to gamble on Floor 1, you have even more options.

Floor 1 however, will probably kill you if both Luci's get bound and you don't have an answer to that. A delay or something to reduce incoming damage work. or i gues you could just have a team with enough hp to tank his 21.6k hit with both lucifers bound.

The best option i have in my monster box is L Meta. immune to binds, can use her active to remove them, and also has the awakenings.

now there's two options for the remaining 3 slots. 3 gravities, or two gravities and and something to kill ra, likely Bane or your own ra.

A total of 6 gravities are needed to allow a MS to kill thoth and sopdet each. (Thoth needs a little more love, but that should be easy while your waiting for the gravities to come back online.

3 gravities means you need to make sure your getting thoth and sopdet where you need them, because you'll need 1-2 ready for Ra. you also run the risk of accidentally putting one or both of them under 20% where they start being a much larger pain. it's still doable though.

2 gravities means you need to let your gravities cycle twice, which makes the whole thing possibly take longer, the upside being that once you get to ra, he dies immediately. Down side here is, unless your bind recovery is G/d ceres, you have two monsters that aren't getting lucifer's leader bonus.

Finally, thanks Scathbais and yoshi for the upvotes. I understand lucifer is somewhat boring sometimes, but i never understood the hate he gets. He's nice and stable, no getting orb trolled.

Getting both Lucifers bound at the same time is not that rare. The double bind has a 1/15 chance of binding both Lucifers, and if your Lucifers are not skilled up you need to eat 5, maybe 6 (depending on # of skill boosts) double binds, meaning you'll get double Lucifer bound about ~30% of runs. You'll either need a bind clear awakening or know that you'll lose 1/3 of your runs on floor 1.

Yep, double bind luci's one FLR 1, 70 stamina wasted. Joy.

Yeah, you'll need something with bind recovery awakenings to be 100% safe. A bind recovery active could still end up with you dead if you get unlucky enough to have it bind both lucis twice in a row, before the active can refresh. same with defensive boosts (Rainbow Keeper or thanatos) and delays.

If you're using bane, and he's awoken, your good there.

My build of
Luci
Bane (No awakenings)
L MEta
Hera
Hera
Had me okay until floor 4, where i accidentally hit enough TPAs, enough that both thoth and sopdet went under 20% when i did my second round of gravities. And i could not hold on for another 25 turns when i was taking 44k damage a turn.

I think my max skilled isis could be used there tho, only 2 bind rcv but monster attack every 2 turn so your ready for next attack. right? Isis skill max = 3turn (2bind rcv) ...
edit:/ also swapping bane/ra for tenth angel. angel is dark and has alot of hp. (my bane is not lvl'd and i dont have ra :(

Isis would work, she'd need to be skilled down to at least 6 cool down to be 100% safe. Crystal skull does his bind every six turns, so if you got incredibly unlucky and had him bind both lucifers twice in a row, you'd need her up again. if your's is max skilled, you'll be fine.

@mew You're right. That is a high chance. Maybe I just never paid attention bc I kind of instinctively match a row when anyone is bound.

@Silveus that actually happened to me too in the first challenge series. I think it was right after Luci got his TPA and it didnt even occur to me. But luckily, I combo'd hard for a few turns until I ran out of hearts, then used 1 grav + MS to kill Thoth. Sopdet wasted a turn reviving him so I was able to heal. And somehow, switching target to Sopdet and doing 4 combos whenever I could, I was able to get him above 20% and start making hearts again. Now I just use at most 3 gravities and just grind them. Never give up! Lol.

... Even though I've been saying sht about calculating everything and whatnot, it really sounds like I'm the one who's not doing that (with having to TPA crystalskull too...lol). But I mean I can mess up that bad and still come out fine, I'd say Lucifer's more than viable :P Theres a guy on youtube clearing every descend + daily dungeon with Luci teams, and today my friend showed me a vid of that guy 0 stoning challenge lv10. Wasn't really surprised though, if you can clear Trifruits with Luci, you can do challenge 10 with him no prob. But I just want to show all those vids to all the Lucifer (and user) haters, just so they'd shut up about it.
For anyone whos interested, the guy is 田中筋肉 (Tanaka Kinniku).

i must say there is good chance of double bind. i just started it at the moment and after 3 bind turn, 2 of 3 was double luci bind haha... i glad i got my isis in there :)

It happened when MS got the "spawn 3 Heal orbs" added to its effect.

Scathbais
I completely agree. It really is stupid for people simply to downvote Luci for the sake of it. In fact, I completed the dungeon with dual Luci easily (he was my first roll and even after rolling Ronia and most of her subs, I still use Luci quite often on descends).

My team was Luci 2x (friend was +297, mine is +170), Hera-Is, Divine Queen Hera (almost max skilled), G/D Ceres, and Drawn Joker (max skilled).

With a max skilled Drawn Joker and Ceres, Floor 1 (arguably the hardest floor) is an absolute joke since you can easily remove binds (even when both leaders are bound). The rest of the dungeon is simple grinding. Took about 40-45 min for me and completed it no problem!

Levels were: Luci (both max level), Hera-Is (lvl 54), Divine Queen Hera (70), G/D Ceres (max level) and Drawn Joker (61). Total HP was about 65k. Barely any plus eggs on any of the subs (so total plus egg investment a little less than 500). Good luck guys and keep proving to people that dual Luci is awesome!

Now we know what's to come in the future dungeons. Maybe Grand Sonia descend will have that no continue rule.

And also Flower Beam.

Darkseid ftw!

Or Bane, or even UFO X'D ...But then you'd have UFO on your team :L

"Makes" you spend on REM so you can zero stone

I use L/Meta team to finish it. Really simple, don't over shoot.
Team:
L/Meta, Kushi, Ra, Echi, Valkyrie, L/Meta.
All Ult Evo + awoken, around 50+ on my own and 200+ Friend. Echi and Valkyrie Max skill ( may not be required).
Both L/Meta give you around 1.5x hp. Thus with all max lv you have around 23000-25000 HP depend on your +. Floor 1 stall until all skills are up. L/Meta can not be bind so you always have enough HP before it gets under 40%. It is healer team so no Problem for rcv. Then echi + Valkyrie to finish it.
Round 2 stall until echi up. 9K attack is not a problem, 3 hearts and several combo you are back at full HP. Kushi and L/Meta are also there 4 you. Use green kushi to attack the blue mask and then Ra to finish.
Round 3 grind until around 50%, then echi and kill.
Round 4 you always have enough hearts while your hp always below 50%. Thus no atk boost now, just grind until both are less than 50% but more than 20%. Echi, L/Meta to get your hp back above 50%, Valkyrie and kushi for safety, target the Dark one you should be able to finish it. 3 more rounds for Light one.
Round 5. Ra, no more explanation needed.
The hardest part is you don't over shoot. It took me a 2nd time because of unlucky sky falls.
Floor 1 keep it at least 40%. Floor 3 keep it 50%, Floor 4 keep 20%. Then Echi and kill them safely. Ra for Floor 2 and 5.

thanks for the info but looking at my current collection..... I need something more practical you know