Sword Combat - No Wd / Dk

Some stats:

Let's say we have a 40% drop rate.

How confident do you want to be that you will get one? To have a 100% chance of catching one, you would have to play an infinite number of times. Obviously not possible, given the 24 hr cycle. Even if you swept the dungeon every five minutes, spent stones like the biggest whale out there to restore your stamina, you could still, in theory, not get a drop.

So 100% is impossible. And to be at least 95% sure you'll catch one, you have to plan on 6 runs. Even then, you'll fail 1 out of twenty times. It's harder to figure out your chances of catching at least one than the chances of not catching one, and since those are the only two options (none vs one or more), we can subtract the probability of getting zero from 100% to see the probability of catching at least one. Assuming you haven't played it yet, the math works out like this:

At 1 run, you have a 60% chance of not catching, so 40% chance of catching at least one.

Since the runs of the dungeon are independent, you simply multiply the probabilities together, so for 2 runs, you take the 0.60 * 0.60 and you get 0.36, which means you have a 64% chance of catching at least one. (inside there is a 16% chance of catching two, but hey, that's still at least one, right?)

3: 0.36 * 0.6 = 0.216, so 21.6% chance of catching nothing and a 78.4% chance of catching at least one.

4: 0.216 * 0.6 = 0.1296, so 87.14% chance of catching at least one.

5: 0.1296 * 0.6 = 0.07776, a 92.224% chance.

This is how many times you ran it. Based on these numbers, nearly 1 out of every ten people who run this dungeon 5 times will catch nothing but chests. Not all that far out of the realm of possibility.

Let's take KOudbw's issue of ten runs and still no catch:

0.6 * 0.6 * 0.6 * 0.6 * 0.6 * 0.6 * 0.6 * 0.6 * 0.6 * 0.6 is just over 0.006, which means that 6 out of a thousand times that you run it 10 times in a row, you will catch nothing. Granted, he says 'like over 10 times', so maybe it was more than that.

The problem we usually run into as humans is assuming that it will happen the next time. But since they are independent, having missed 9 times does not mean we have a 99.4% chance of catching him on that tenth run. It's still just 40%. The reason is that missing 9 times and then catching is a little more unlikely than missing ten times.

I'm sure someone has posted these figures somewhere, but figured it might be helpful.

I've thought about making a calculator to let you figure out how many times you ought to run a dungeon to catch at least X copies of a given monster with Y% confidence, but the numbers got too big for javascript. Maybe just need one for catching 1.

Depends, if your orb manipulation skills are high enough to make 10x combos every turn that would be ideal, but for those who don't have the skills its nice to have a tanky Anubis team that can last one or two hits from the enemies.

Beat this, got the drop luckily. It's worth doing Legend because so much luck is involved (went with Robin/Kushinada spike team) and you will be taking hits. The enemies do less damage on Legend, giving you more chances to survive, which I used to heal on every wave except for Wave 1, which more or less requires an instant one-shot. I only had to spend one stone on the boss.

SNAPPY - you can improve your chances of getting big combos by going for cascades or delayed matches, the more orbs fall the greater the chance you'll get a lucky skydrop match. It's more difficult to setup and visualize than normal matching though.

intersted in your "orb manipulation skills" comment. is there a way to manipulate the orbs so they fall down in a certain order, making more combos, or is it random?

This IS a tri-color dungeon, so relying on skydrops isn't too bad of an idea, although you'll still need a reasonable amount of combos each turn so that you won't need as many skydrops.

I did it with heart breakers build and it was easy next time this dungeon comes around ill have my Supergirl evolved and max skilled subs to go Mythical.

lol its luck i did it once got it, i did heracles 9times no luck

ha! I did it once and got taka

Thank you for the info.

I've played for a month and Rebel Luci team is all I have ATM. I'm so happy this build worked for this one since Take is pretty awesome.
I cleared twice and got 1 drop.

However, I don't think you need >45k HP ( I didn't ). F1-F4 clear as you said. F5 just need 3 grav to get her HP to 110k or so and stall to charge skills. Then grav x2 + ms x2 to finish the job.

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yeah each turn when she's below 20% idiot

I use it on floor 4, but I run an anubis/kushinada team. If you can take a hit on floor 4, save it for floor 5. But on low HP teams, you need to use it on floor 4 in order to take the first hit.

You have a Lance Destroying Odin. Fully awaken him and use him as a leader. Subs should have at least a God or Fire type so he can increase their attack strength. You should also evolve and awaken some healers, like that Siren. Get at least one nuke like the Morningstar or Gravity.

You've got a Minerva?! Ultimate evolve her to Awoken Minerva and awaken her. As a leader, she WILL tank most of this dungeon boss' attacks. And she'll defiantly increase your fire and dragon types.

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Legend 100% (40% "If a Mythical Dungeon is available.")

i love how even r.e.t.a.r.d.s can read, but they can't comprehend.......