Scarlet Snake Princess - Expert
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| Flame Knight | 2 | 2,278 | 135 | 11,042 | Lv.5 | ||
| Divine Carmine Mask | 5 | 9,999 | 60,000 | 18 | Lv.1 | ||
| Pyro Devil | 1 | 1,611 | 700 | 8,819 | Lv.5 | ||
| Naga | 2 | 375 | 40 | 5,417 | Lv.5 | ||
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| 5 | | x 3 Echidna | 2 | 3,957 | 192 | 113,302 | ~20% Lv.8 | |
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| In normal dungeons, rare monsters have approximately a 2-5% drop rate based on player experience. The rate may be slightly higher for harder difficulty tiers. For end game bosses, the estimated drop chance per difficulty is: Mythical 100%, Legend 100% ( 40% If a Mythical Dungeon is available ), Master ~40%, Expert ~5%, Adept ~2%. |
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7 By Bacon#38312 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) Math time: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --> Echidna's Menace - Base CD: 15, Max CD: 10 --> Skill Up Chance: 10% (20% with 2x Skill-Up Chance) --> Expert Difficulty - "20%" Drop Rate - 15 Stamina --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * 15 - 10 = 5 * 100 / 10 / 2 = 5 * 100 / 20 = 5 (15 Stamina) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --> 5 x 5 x 5 x 15 = 1875 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- So it takes 125 runs, or 1875 stamina, to max skill up one Echidna. That's assuming RNGesus is merciful and gives you a normal drop rate. Apparently some people in the comments are getting pooped on. While others play the dungeon once and find two dozen Naga's in their Monster Box. Happy Dungeon Games! And may the odds be ever in your favor. ^_~ 6 Hence my quotations around the 20%. I'm only going off of what the site says. Doing anything otherwise would just be pulling numbers out of my ass. And yes, you could feed 15-20 times and not get a skill up. You could also feed 27,492 of them and not get a skill up. Or you could feed 5 and get 5 skill ups. This is a probability. Not trading in tickets for a teddy bear at an arcade. Your stamina doesn't guarantee you anything. It's a statistical estimation. I don't understand how people don't get that. Just because you may have had a bad experience, doesn't mean that others' results are invalid and that you have the correct perception. You alone are just one person. You could play this game more than anyone in the world, and you still wouldn't be a large enough sample size to accurately determine the true probability of anything. We only go off of what information we have. Personally, I recently fed 7 Super Shimonita Konjac's and 16 Super Tsumagoi Cabbage's during a x2 skill up event and got 2 skill ups and 3 skill ups, respectively. Now does that mean my experience gives anymore validity to the statistics we already have? Not really. A bit, yes. But my sample size is no bigger than anyone else's. I don't base probability on my results alone. That would be stupid. My point here is that not everyone has the same experience as you. And regardless of everything above this sentence, humans have a pretty large negativity bias. I'm sure there have been times when you got more skill ups than you deserved, and I'm sure you were just peachy about it. But you don't go around on the forums eager to tell everyone about your recent fortune now, do you? Of course you don't. Why would any human feel inclined to complain about getting more than others got? You got less than the average. You feel robbed. Obviously you aren't going to have a problem with having good luck. 1 Bacon#38312 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) I'M BACK!! With info <(ಠ_ಠ)> Ok so apparently it was 2x drop rate even though it wasn't listed at first. Which means that it should've taken me about 63 runs/938 stamina to get 5 skill ups. I got quite a bit luckier. But yeah. I kept track of my Naga farming over the last day and a half. Here are my results: When I started, my CLM Echidna wasn't skilled up at all. I did the dungeon 40 times before I got skill up max. Throughout I got 21 Naga's. The majority of them (I'd say ~75%) dropped from encountering them before the last floor. When I did find them on floors 1-4, they drops about half of the time. But I think it was an equal drop chance for anything on the same floor. I may have just got lucky. A lot of them came on the first floor. And the first floor seems to only have 2 monsters more than any other. There were multiple times I got two drops in once dungeon! And once I got three :D When I first started doing the dungeon, I got much better drops than later on. So the first time I did skill up fusion, I fed 5 at once. I think that's the way to go. Each time I did 5 at once, I got two skill ups. While I don't think that the chance changes at all by doing so, it definitely feels better to feed 5. You are pretty much guaranteed one skill up. When you feed the Naga's as soon as you get them, one at a time, it just sucks because it feels like you NEVER get skill ups. On top of that, if you are feeding one at a time, you're probably not getting very good drops (as I did for a while after my first lucky spree). So I suggest saving them until you have 5 to feed at once. I used 2 stones to restore stamina on the first day (just because I knew I'd have to use some eventually), and none on the second. I leveled up 3 times throughout. So I had a decent amount of stamina. I used exactly 600 stamina total. Statistically, I got a bit lucky with skill ups and drops (although not far off from average). Also I got 6 plus eggs, but that's irrelevant. So overall, I got about ~35% better success than I should have. I hope you enjoyed my unnecessary wall of text. Naga, please!! <(ಠ_ಠ)> 0 @.@)o-(-_-#31957 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) I guarantee u the last floor is NOT 20%. Most of the nagas I got from this were from stages before the last floor. the 20% in this game is just like the skill ups: you can feed 15-20 skill ups and you will get 0 skill ups lol. 0 Thanks for the long lecture and sorry if I offended you br0. I was just stating my bad experiences which is a lot of crappy rates for my account. The only good rate I successfully skilled up something was vampires. Everything else took 40-50 to get 5 skill ups during 20%. These are the skill up materials that requires me to farm fodders and materials to feed it. Yeap, I totally believe my account is cursed :D. Until I hit a lucky max skilling something 1/5, I'll continue this superstition :( 0 Your argument would be valid if their were times when I got multiple skill ups, drops, etc. in batch runs. I only ever get strings of failure. Twenty skill up attempts or fifty runs through a dungeon are adequate sample sizes to see the results match the chances, within a small margin. The stated probabilities are wrong or Gung Ho doesn't use a RNG without conditionals and modifiers. 5 By Zyd#18442 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) S RANK TEAM: 230,000 points = 15 total rarity to get S rank just from rarity (~240k points) 7* #1423 Shining Lance Wielder, Odin 1* #585 Pixie 1* same 1* same 1* same 4* #925 BAO Firefly + Flamethrower (50% resist & blast) OR 7* #1423 Shining Lance Wielder, Odin 1* #585 Pixie 1* same 1* same 2* #582 Water Horse Kelpie 3* #182 Poring (50% resist) Boss Synched calculation: 3957*.5*(2+.2) = 4352.7 <- HP Limit? Auto-heals in _3_ turns, but they're on a 2 turn timer so if you didn't kill one with Odin & BAO or Odin & Kelpie, then you'd better heal a little after all 3 synched hit you. Floor 1-4: On any floor with 4+ synched mobs it's probably worthwhile to Odin blast one. Other than that, just grind. the Kelpie can make the boss much faster if you happen to have the poring and kelpie (assuming your odin is coming from a friend). Odin & 1 BAO blast if your BAO is like level 50+ should kill one of the 3 bosses (so you won't even have 3 synched) or at least get one into easily killable range. Same thing for Odin & Kelpie. Good luck with drops in addition to your S-rank 'cause I know EVERYONE needs more nagas for skillups, always =p 1 Primus257#28511 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Used the Odin + BAO Firefly method - also worked very nicely. Thanks! 0 Chowder#4343 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Thank you, Zyd!!! I also used poring/kelpie w/ amazing Odin friend and got a free tama :D 4 By Jordansaur#18158 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) Fingers crossed for generous drops! Good luck to everyone to get their first Snake waifu, or perhaps more to feed their own personal waifu! 3 By BruceWayne#46238 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) GUNGHO, YOU FORGOT TO BRING THIS DUNGEON BACK IN AUGUST... 0 acolyte#51913 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Thanks for all those god descends dungeons gungho.. but some love for our healer girls please? 2 By J.T.#19341 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) They should have a sirin and pixie dungeon like this, I'm tired of not getting them in the normal dungeon. 1 herro^_^#46096 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) siren is suuuuper easy to skill up, so you just need to get lucky and get one drop from normal or PEM or REM 0 Mr Wiggles#26061 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) Agreed for all the healer girls, I didn't get a Succubus 'til I ran Satan at rank 135 and she unexpectedly dropped O_o Rank 158 now and I still don't have a Dryad :L 2 By EDmond-I#27441 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) although there are 3 Echidna（s），only the chosen one has 20% drop rate，which mean if the chosen one doesnt drop， the other 2 would not drop either，thats just mean，hate those game setting，freakin mean 2 By Nightmares#35386 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) aww man this dungeon got delayed i hope they bring it back 2 By hoyun#46915 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) guys if you're planning to mass farm naga for skill up, do it on the last day of the dungeon period, in which most likely it'll be 2x drop rate, and prepare to stone hard like a mad man. And don't be fooled by the 20% skill up rate rumor during 2x skill up days, the actual skill up rate is definitely less than 10% even on the 2x period. So be prepare to farm for 60 of them if you want to make sure that you can max skilled her. 2 By mazzafakka#66204 4 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) "~20% Lv.8" best joke in ages! 0 BALDURS!!#42704 4 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) my worst record in skilling up is with her. Drop rate is crummy , also. 1 By Llammissar#29540 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) Reading all these comments, I feel a little bad. I've gotten seven today... Good luck everyone! :( 0 Jordansaur#18158 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) Yeah I'm up to 5 gained right now. I think I've used 150 Stamina total which isn't terrible. Good luck everyone! 0 I used about 120 stamina and got one, but im happy cuz i didnt even have one before :D 0 my rate is slightly worse than yours.. used probably around 200 stam and i've gotten 5 drops - 3 from final boss and 2 from random spawn. My drops were rather streaky. I got 3 in a 1 hour stretch, then 2 in the last 3 runs.. and if anyone is looking for the red devine mask, this dungeon drops a ton. i can never get them to drop in the weekday dungeon, so i'm keeping all the ones i've been able to stock pile here. Last edited by David 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 1 By sobesurfer#33242 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) what does this mean? Time-travel shows 2x drop for SSP in the last 24 hours. is it confirmed that there will be 2x drop rate for this dungeon tomorrow? 1 Jourdan#34810 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) I'm assuming that someone changed the time on their device and saw a x2 drop rate for tomorrow. NOTE: all drops are regulated by Gungho servers so there wouldn't be a way to change your time and manipulate dungeons... just guessing that the client side of the game would reflect unaccurate notices if you change your device settings Edit: Time Travel: http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=2412 Last edited by Jourdan 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 0 Silverfall#36511 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) To me the only thing different is that u r guaranteed to have a knight/devil drop on each stage. 2/8 in normal rate and 0/10 during the x2 drop event looks somehow ironic lol. 1 By Ea#30342 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 7 from five runs, kept one and maxed skilled my previous echidna with 6. I'm afraid to play anymore today. 0 foskia#52904 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) omg it's 1.4 nagas every dungeon and a 100% skill up rate! you're my new god 1 By Anon#24960 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) It's been almost FOUR FREAKING MONTHS. COME BACK ALREADY. Edit: Okay it's back. Thanks Gungho :P Last edited by Anon 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 1 By Bacon#50401 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) I hate this place. I looked forward to it for months and when it finally arrives I fused nearly 45 and got 1 single skill up. Kill me 1 By 寒天#33974 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) At this rate I'm going to max skill a few demons before I max skill one echidna....... 1 By GodsOrBust#50489 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) OK, ponder this--During 2x drop chance, 2x skillup chance: Dropped 330 stamina into this dungeon [22 runs), got 12 drops (incl. 2 double drop runs) and all five skillups. The first 10 runs were from free stamina without stones. One drop, no skill ups. But once I spent a stone for a stamina refresh, everything shifted. so in 12 runs, I had 11 drops, and got all five skillups. Has anyone else seen a noticeable increase in drops/skillups once you spend a stone on something? Or is this a false correlation? Last edited by GodsOrBust 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 0 Pendragon#19740 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Nope. I have run this about 80 times now with an average of 1 drop in 5 runs. The last 13 didn't get me a single skill up. In the first few runs I got 5 and got 2 skill ups. Update: Ran it 15 more times, got 5 drops and my last 2 skill ups. I wish I didn't waste so many stones on this. I'm going to be farming +'s for the rest of the day. Hopefully drops are not as bad as this dungeon. Last edited by Pendragon 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 0 By Teri#29177 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) Gaaah I'm such an idiot! A naga dropped for me and I blew the encounter with the 3 Echidnas ;_; Why did I waste my stones in that stupid carnival!? Edit: Caught another one. Yaay~ The drop rate is fantastic in this place. Last edited by Teri 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 3 JDA#30186 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) They must have stacked my drop rate on yours cause I've been thru this room more than 10 times and still nothing. 0 By topdwg916#30243 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) I've ran this 7 times and not a single drop...wtf? seriously GungTroll, do we have to pay everytime with stones and money to get the drop rates up? Edit: ok make that a total of 11 times now and not a single drop. I wonder where the 20% comes from 0 for 11 is more like 0% drop arghhhhh. All that wasted stam. Edit2: wow...finally after 20+ runs I got one. I hope you guys are having better luck Last edited by topdwg916 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 0 By -Striku-#37071 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) For those who just started the game, I recommend owning two echidnas and the rest of them use as skill ups. One of the echidnas will be used as your main echidna while the other is used for the conditional dungeons that has cost restrictions (2nd form) 0 By David#28639 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) does anyone know if its 20% drop per Echidna on the final stage? Or just overall 20%? Is it worth skilling up Echidna now, or save them all up for the next 2x skill up event? I'm not sure i have the inventory space to warrant keeping however many i can farm.. reading on forums, it sounds like it'll take a long time to max skill her. i havent felt the need to add an echidna to my teams, but sounds like she's essential to late game content. Last edited by David 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 0 Chase@GT#25423 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) I think it's 20% per, but I'm not sure. I'd save for double skill up events, especially since menace skill ups are so difficult to get. On average, it should take about 25 Naga's to max skill an Echidna during 2x events (50 without the event), so I'd say it's difficult to max out. She's a pretty amazing spike team sub for doing descendeds. 0 thanks! i think i'll collect as many nagas as i can and wait til the next 2x event to skill up as you suggested.. probably will take me a few of these naga special events to eventually max level echidna though. i'm close to being able to attempt legendary but not there yet so i'm not in a huge rush to max skill her. i guess i'll just have to make some space or buy more. I just ulti evolved my Cu Chu and will have a pretty good balanced spike team.. then maybe work on a dragon team and a valk team.. all of which echidna would be a pretty good member of (i think). 0 By Paradragon#25233 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) I hope I get a Naga..... way when I first started, I got 2 Nagas.... one from the int version of this and one from the normal dungeon in Volcano Vulcan.... I threw them both away along with my BAO Robin and my Dragonette, thinking they weren't rare. Now in my monster book, it says I have them, but I haven't gotten any of them since. 0 David#28639 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) yea i did that with the lil black ripper dragon.. threw away 2 early on when i only had 20 box space.. i've proably spent over 300 stam on the 5 stam early dungeon trying to get him again :( if we had only known.... 0 By LordKanti#5658 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) i've been trying to max skill my Echidna for what seems like forever... and now i finally have the stones and stamina to make a serious try for it. sooooo... some quick stats: it took me 24 Expert runs to get 10 drops. (approx %41 drop rate... even though it felt infuriatingly like ~%10 ;) however, of those 10 drops, only 3 were Lv.8 (from EoSE / floor 5)... so statistically speaking, you are apparently more likely to secure drops from randomly generated Naga on Floors 1-4. which, i guess, doesn't mean much, except that if you don't pull any and then get killed on Floor 5 for some reason, you shouldn't cry too much ;D now good luck on your skill up rolls, everyone! 0 By Syduck#20303 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) oh my. farming this has been atrocious. sitting at 4 drops out of 32 runs. :( 0 By iaKai#30287 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) I don't see the problem; I've been running this nonstop and I've gotten 10 Nagas. If anything, I have too many now! :l or I'm just lucky. -1 David#28639 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) sounds like you're one of the lucky ones (depending on how much stam you've used). 0 By Victarrion#30293 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) What is the deal with this? I've done it close to twenty+ times over the last two days and I haven't gotten one to drop since the first two runs. Last five or so runs I haven't even encountered a Naga. That's looking at a sub 10% drop rate. What a disappointment of a dungeon... 0 By Guest#30328 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) I ran this dungeon at least 50 times this weekend and only got 2 from boss level. That is a 4% drop rate, no where close to the said 20%. Since 50 is a pretty good sample size here, your game doesn't follow the rules of probability, freaking BS! 0 By David#28639 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) i used about 250-275 stam and got 5 naga drops.. and got 0 skill ups with the 2x skill up event. I can def see why everyone says max levelling echidna suckssss 0 L(>o<)L Qz#32998 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) I think I am going through exactly the same phase. I am erupting in tears of rage. 0 By Alisha#39435 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) If I have been able to run Hera this last time, should I be able to run this? I do not have a siren as she refuses to drop for me in this game despite despite spending weeks farming Sea Cave mercury and others, but I digress. I'd love to be able to start skilling Echidna up. I have a Valk, but she is not evo'd yet as I just got her during the last godfest. I have the Qiao sisters as well as Haku for burst; would that be a decent lead if I ran Odin or maybe even Siren on the other side, perhaps? I don't have a very good max evo'd blue lead (though I do have a fenrir knight, which I would definitely bring). Thanks! :) 0 By Apokolypse#30389 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) Back when I didn't really want her, just the stone I got 2 of her in 1 run. Now that I actually use her and am trying to skill her up the last time she came around I only ran her dungeon for the 2 days she was available and I didn't get a single one. Better luck this time I hope. 0 By FLYINGPIG#11469 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) encountered 3 echidnas in one run none dropped... curse gungho 0 By MtnDude@PA#7900 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) Naga, please! I'm tired of these lazy Naga's not dropping. I'm going to turn into a Naga-hater pretty soon. 0 By Jaldy#40409 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) I cleared this dungeon today about 6 times on Expert...AN ECHINDA EGG DROPPED ON MY LATEST RUN! ....... except on the score summary screen, it ended up being a Naga...and was even placed in my monster box as a Naga. I has a sad. 1 xander#18539 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) thats how most good drops are. drops almost always have a couple less stars than what you beat. (when it comes to bosses and invades) 0 By Hieu Sky#38901 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) Holy sh*t on x2, 10 run i got 14 nagas, and 4+ eggs, I'm so happy 0 Redspit123#36607 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) lucky, ive run ti 5 times today and none, 2x my butt, its 40%?? yeah right, yesterday i got 2 nagas -1 H❤鐡柱大法好#27374 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) I didn't get any + egges but I did manage to max her out in 3 hours with 2 stones. Loving it! 0 By xander#18539 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) the REM gods may hate me but the skill up faeries have shown their love. level two to MAX just 10 naga later. drops werent so bad but i did use a stone tho get the last two skill ups. 0 By CafeDCoral#39012 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 11 drops in 10 runs during the 2x drop rate! Take advantage of this guys! 0 By angel#22257 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) I think 2x drop rate means half drop rate... Yesterday I was getting a good amount. Today in the last 10 runs I haven't gotten any, so frustrating 0 By 冥#40099 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 9 stones with 75 stamina and a few nice timed level ups and I still didn't have enough to max this thing.... wow, skill ups in this game really are just dumb kek On the plus side I guess, I got 15 freaking plus eggs for Echidna. Level 5 isn't that bad, but knowing that my last 5 stones that I only needed one skill up for were just wasted sucks so much. 0 By kadian1365#38354 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) Farmed 40 Nagas in 2 days, only 3 skill ups to show for it with double rate active. F*cking brutal. 0 By Chenster#40383 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) Just adding my run stats for this dungeon during the x2 drop rates - I'm level 223 with 128 stamina and non-IAP player - used three stones and ran this dungeon appx 30 times - got 22 nagas - was only able to skill up 3 times - can't complain but wish i could've maxed my echidna...at least the stones were a gift ftom gungho for the iOS troubles - would never have bothered trying to skill up my echidna otherwise I think it'd be an absolute waste for non-IAP players to try and max skill their echidnas and run this dungeon when its not x2 - just wait until the x2 comes around again 0 By fenken#47376 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Wow I just did it first time on Int and it dropped. Not even x2. Such luck, huh? Imgur.com/H9EWqNg Last edited by fenken 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 0 By Davvinchi#29456 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) ez s-rank (may need to run again in case all three echidna are synced on boss stage): leader: #925 BAO firefly and flamethrower helper lead: ama max lvl subs a bunch of ones. Job done. 0 By legion#43874 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Whenever that dungeon comes around I use all my stamina for that one. Got two nagas using 112 and 113 stamina (yes I tipped of my exp yesterday so I can level up here). I will use my thre stones tomorrow if 2x droprate and hope for 10 nagas. No sweeter pain than feeding 2x5 nagas to echnida for ZERO skill ups like last time the dungeon was here. I am almost level 200 and can't run so many dungeons that require max skilled echnida. Mine is still skill level 2 after playing for almost two years. 0 By celesnya☆#47027 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) I ran this dungeon 12 times, and got 9 nagas (even one with a +1), which seems pretty good IMO,... but then I fed all of them to Echidna and got 0 skill ups So sadfais nao ;-; 0 By kandjar#33833 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) S-Rank team: Shardran or BAO firefly+flamethrower or Poring: rarity 4 x4 rarity 1 monster Shining Lance Wielder, Odin: rarity 7 Total rarity = 15 Average Rarity: 2.5 -> Score based on rarity: 241,100 --- For safety reason: total HP > 4355 if you're using BAO or Poring, so you can take a hit if all 3 Echidna are in sync. Last edited by kandjar 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 0 By vxldo#52047 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) I don't think trying to skill up is worth it.:/ low drop rates,, lower skill up rates,, crappy rem pulls. stupid gunggorithms! 0 bunker931#18541 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) i got one max skill, totally worth and essential for some descent. 0 By GIRAFFECOW#54505 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Just got my first drop. Then I rolled for gala of flame, and got an Echidna. Why you hate me GungHo? 0 By clint#53929 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) The Kapibara-san Collab landed me a nice new way for S-ranking this one. Shining Lance Wielder, Odin 4 one star monsters Uttorin White-San The Uttorin has "2.5 ATK when Dark, Wood & Water attack" leader skill to help clear pesky demons and a "Void fire damage for 3 turns" active to help survive while killing off synced Echidnas. Just make sure to have both actives up before Floor 5. Rarity alone guarantees S rank. 0 By niels#40821 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 20 Naga fed for max. Skill :D I read a tip somewhere saying: "Level up your Naga before you feed it"! Of course it might have just been luck, but I fed 5 Nagas each time, all around lvl 20. First 5: 1 Skill-Up, second 5: 0 Skill-Ups, third 5: 1 Skill-Up: fourth 5: 3(!!!) Skill-Ups Spent 2 Stones for Stamina refresh and had one Level-Up inbetween. It's definitely doable, hang in there if you had some bad luck and try levelling up your Nagas a bit before you feed them. 0 ellokitty#55064 4 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) I did a similar thing (but when trying to level up Persephone) I farmed and stoned for wicked lady. Got 13. I took the time to max level them ALL. Btw also HAD to evole them once....... I waited for a x2skill up day, and stared feeding the maxed ladies to their queen I only got 2 skill ups. NEVER AGAIN. After that I only feed lady the bare minimum necessary.... I got 2 more ladies from pal egg. And got the skill up on both. *if maxing the monster doesn't higher chance of skill up, than a few feeds Prob don't either It's just all in the head, but if it makes people FEEL like it helps... Lol doesn't hurt 0 By blee#47874 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) stats:30 runs, 14 nagas, 2 plus eggs, 5 carmine masks, 5 skillups all that on normal drop day Last edited by blee 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 0 By foskia#52904 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) first try, 1 naga dropped from floor 3 *puts the naga in power up fusion. gets a super x2 and a skill up* yeee :D 0 By Nikhil#66403 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Is it certain that it's a 20% drop? I've run it about 10 times, and haven't gotten a single naga. 0 Lgdm#70494 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) I don't see the SSP dungeon in the special dungeons tab in the game :( Any reason for that ? 0 By terminalx#65257 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) S-Rank score around 260k Arcane monarch Duke - 4 carbuncle any element - Ronia 7 turns just match fr,dk or wt while clearing lt and wd and heal orbs 0 By Crow!#67451 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Make sure not to miss the real gem of this dungeon, the intermediate mode. On 2x drops, the intermediate level grants wildly more crimson demon masks per stamina than anything normally available. 0 By UaahMaster#49615 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 2X Drop stats from yesterday, just thought I'd share these: 16 runs (240 Stamina) 7 Nagas (43.75% or .43 Nagas per run) 3 boss drops (18.75% chance of boss dropping) 3 Skillups (42.85% from the 7 Nagas that dropped) Keep in mind that this was during a 2.5x Skillup rate, so by feeding 5 Nagas you had approximately a 76% chance of getting at least 1 Skillup as opposed to the usual 67%. 0 By waldo#67955 4 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) Just S ranked on my alt with unevoed Urd/werewolf/evo mask/evo mask/evo mask/Awoken Hino Kagutsuchi. Pretty easy. Levels were 39/6/1/1/1/99 only hino max awoken, no plusses. F1 to F4 Hino one shots everything except masks. Stall on masks for skills when you can. Save red and dark orbs in the corners to use for TPAs on boss floor. Enjoy tama. 0 By ellokitty#55064 4 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 07.25..... Dungeon open for two days... I JUST noticed. why don't I have the option to run MASTER. O_o I've cleared No-Ex wth 0 waldo#67955 4 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) Master level is only in the coin dungeon. Drops aren't too bad in Expert. 0 By ssaj#63924 4 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) Easy S rank: Norn of the past, Urd 1* 1* 1* 1* Norn of the past, Urd Rarity alone 220 000 points Just match red or blue 0 By BlkBeard#77479 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) I cleared this dungeon and got a "C" rank...How do I get the 230,000 points to get an "S" rank? What are the points based on? Sorry for the newb question.... 0 tn#77751 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) Primarily rarity. Typically if you run 2 six star or lower leads and a few one or two stars you can hit it on rarity alone. Combos and fewer turns to clear help too but not nearly as much unless you are hitting 8-10 combos. tamadra site shows you exactly what you need for each dungeon to hit s-rank. 0 Brose#84035 4 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) The easiest way to get s rank is to use rarity points which means Your awesome lead 1 star 1 star 1 star 1 star Your friend's awesome lead That would get you s rank. I did it with Lead: Emperor of Palemecia 1 star x 4 Friend: H.Alraune Basically I just stall until boss and nuke her. Job done. Last edited by Brose 4 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 0 By Isolated#29167 4 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) Spent two days worth of stamina trying to farm naga for skill ups, the skill up rate is also currently at 2.5x, and only managed to skill up once! JUST ONCE! 20% drop rate is just to low and when they do drop u have to deal with if it will skill up :( -1 By Dusk#50769 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 525 stamina so far 6 naga drops (1 from boss floor, 5 from invades) 1 skill up on my Echidna Was it worth it? No. Should have spent my time farming +eggs from KoTG -3 dime#49287 5 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) hahahaha you got raped son..... i've only fused 3 maybe four nagas into my echidna and have got 2 skill ups from it -2 By thamuzz#54443 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Just fed my Echidna 7 of her children. I got 5 skill ups. Now, this is slightly balanced by the fact that I didn't manage to get a Hera-Is last night (gorram friend with Abyss Neptune not logging in until less than an hour before the dungeon ended), but still, BOOYAH! -3 By PCC#27730 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) Apparently this is the most useful monster in the game. If we ever have the 2x drop rate, some people may even spend stones to refill stamina just to get as much naga as possible for skill ups. Personally I think that is overkill, but it is an option. -1 Anon#24960 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) I know this is really late, but "some people" is quite an understatement. A big one for that matter. -4 By H❤鐡柱大法好#27374 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) I just leveled Ult Evo Echidna from Lv2 to max; took me 3 hours (at work lol), spent two stones. I think there are some tricks I can share, although I don't know if it would work for everyone. 1) Play expert, when it's drop x2 ONLY 2) Use a powerful team; I found that, when Echidna appeared (either randomly on any F or at 5F), if you can combo well or hit it just really hard, it's 85% drop; there's a few times I got two Echidna in one playthrough 3) I don't just feed her right away. I leveled the material-Echidna to about level 18-22 or even max, and then feed to the one I needed to max-skill. First time I gained 2 levels, second time gained 1, third time gained 0, and fourth time gained another 1 and max her out. 4) The lower level the main Echidna is, the easier to level up. I'm planning my 3rd one, and I'm planning to max her skill first before even evo her to the 2nd form. Last edited by H❤鐡柱大法好 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 0 CJ#57142 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) You fed one echidna to another and got two skill ups out of it? Sounds like a dream. |
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Edit: 2 Days later and almost 415 stamina later, I've gotten 10. Hopefully I don't roll a Chinese god from Sticker Girls REM tomorrow >///<
3 of the drops were consecutive runs.