Ancient Draggie Knight, Zeal
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12 By @.@)o-(-_-#31957 6 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) This monster is not as easy to get as a common slime. Why is he not 3x like all the other slimes? If he is going to be 2.5x he should be as easy to get as a regular slime from a tier 1 dungeon LOL. The gap between the obtainability of draggie and other slimes is outrageously unproportionate. In addition it is 0.5 less boost o.O I doubt dragons having high attack is an excuse for it to only have 2.5x atk. If so, king flamie would be 2x. Their high atk is balanced out with crap recovery. Show some more love to the dragons! All in All: Draggie: 1. Way harder to get/evolve 2. 2.5x atk Other slimes: 1. Practically free to get and evolve 2. 3x attack Correct me if I'm wrong. 13 There is a god slime but it's only for 2x multiplier. It's called Izanagi 3 Skyknight#11392 6 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) Probably just a matter of it amplifying dragons than anything else. Dragons and gods are the "special" creature types, compared to the other five. If they ever craft a god-amplifying slime, I'm sure it will get the 2.5* and difficult-to-obtain status as well. 1 Max skill it's fine but.. 21 turns for 1 turn delay is outrageous, needs skill up material.. besides himself XD piis are here now though 1 Josh-PF/BB#7124 6 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) He's also more difficult to skill-up and starts at a longer cool down. 1 CJ#57142 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) You are now wrong. He also has a 1 turn delay associated with his spike. 0 Tell that to my draggie in my box. 0 L3GH05T5#72652 4 years ago ( 9.0.3 ) So, with the exception of recovery, this guy stomps all over the other Slimes stat-wise. And most of the other Slimes don't have even 200 RCV. Plus he's got a dual attribute, something none of the other slimes can say. 0 wtf piis are way harder to get than this little scrub -2 He's also unobtainable...in America. 0 By aszma#31409 6 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) Little disappointing the buffs are nice but with zero RCV and a green attribute plus only giving x2.5 its gonna be hard to use this guy on a endgame dragon team with guys like Zearog and kouryu still its a great addition to any ADK team for the lower level dungeons. 0 By Murd@PF#34660 6 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) Looks like the US is finally getting Ancient Draggie Knight, Zeal so I'm kind of happy about that. However, it still sucks that it is still 'weaker' in comparison to the other slimes. Cons: Significantly harder to obtain Can only be obtained during a one-day event roughly once a month "Harder" to skill up due to having to evolve with Mythlit first Longer starting cooldown 2.5x instead of the 'standard' 3x Costs more No recovery Pros: More HP and attack than other slimes Does not require a king metal dragon to evolve for skill up A wood secondary The fact that the recovery is so low for dragons already also means that the problem is exacerbated by Draggie by not having any recovery and therefore, they are much less likely to be able to stall for 21 turns (unskilled). The dragons' ONLY saving grace is green Sonia as it is the only good dragon leader that provides not only an incredible active skill but also a leader skill that nearly rivals Ancient Dragon Knight, Zeal in terms of attack and provides the MUCH needed 2.5 recovery. The next closest leader that I can think of is Flowerdragon Gaia Brachys but everything it has is inferior to green Sonia EXCEPT for the fact that it affects all wood monsters but if you have Draggie on your team, I doubt there would be any wood non-dragons worth running in place of a dragon. The higher cost of Draggie doesn't help either since a lot of dragons, particularly the ones gained from special dungeons generally costs 50 or more, again, exacerbating a problem that dragons already have. GungHo needs to give dragons some serious love T.T 0 No, it does not take a king metal/jewel dragon to skill up, it only needs to be evolved into a Draggie Knight to skill up. 0 Wholeheartedly agree and all points above, regular mythlits are a whole lot harder to come by that King Metal/Emeralds. Should drop this starting CD to 16 at least! 0 Rubicari#3272 6 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) I agree w yr post, but I think he's meant for end game dragon builds; ie Zaerog & Kouryu teams. With all the awoken abilities floating around, think about double Zaerog, Threedia or Kouryu teams w Ultimates Canopus, Hadar, Uriel, Himiko, Divenegon, Tiamat, max skill Ancient dragons, max skill Toy dragons, etc. A couple of those have high RCV & even Autoheal awakens to make stalling easier for the tougher dungeons. Unlike Satan teams, u will be able to get positive RCV with Zaerog. Kouryu teams will need high RCV, & Threedia will need less. I too wish Draggie was X3 & feel that dragons need more love, but I believe what Skyknight said probably sums up GungHo's thought process on Draggie: Skyknight 5 months ago ( 6.3.1 ) Probably just a matter of it amplifying dragons than anything else. Dragons and gods are the "special" creature types, compared to the other five. If they ever craft a god-amplifying slime, I'm sure it will get the 2.5* and difficult-to-obtain status as well. -4 Rexy#29576 6 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) Does not require a king metal dragon to evolve for skill up? check again 0 By aBoxofTim#22150 6 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) can somebody tell me what the point of an ulti evo is if it's still only 2.5x enhance? 4 AiLied#20258 6 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) It nearly doubles his HP, and replaces the second awakening with a much more useful skill boost. 0 By jellykid#37014 6 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) Can someone help me out and tell me as to why this is called the SLIME series? Just seems weird. 3 DLish#34744 6 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) I expect that would be a nod to the Dragon Quest series of rpg games with similar monsters. It is a fairly popular game series in the West but it is one of the biggest game series in Japan. The "Slime" style monster has also showed up in other RPG game series but DQ is the big one. 0 By Lord Murky#23484 6 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) Pair this guy with my Guan Yu and a zeal and Im looking at a x26.5 multiplier for a dragon type team. Able to clear almost any floor. 0 By BreaKBeatZ#23994 6 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) I just noticed that the base version of Draggie has a starting cooldown of 17 instead of 21 even though it's only 2x attack instead of 2.5x. Since this guy is super annoying to skill up, it might be better to use his base skill for dungeons where it's hard to stall for a 21 skill active. 0 By Green#33060 6 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Thoughts on putting him as a sub for a Karin (B/G version) team? 0 By Son Goku#50474 6 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Basically a knock off of ancient dragon knight lol, or is it the other way around? I dunno, I haven't been playing for as long as you guys 0 By Potatoshoe#51682 6 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) Can someone explain why I lost my + atk awoken skill on ult evo? I thought awoken skills were supposed to carry over on ult evos even if the new form doesn't have it. Edit: Nevermind, I realize now that I misunderstood the system. And think I may have wasted some TAMADRA on some crap skills, thinking I'd get to add an extra awoken on the Ult. I am an idiot. Last edited by Potatoshoe 6 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 0 By Rubicari#3272 6 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) I originally thought the art in this evo was weak, until now, I hadn't noticed the phantom dragon striking forward. That is awesome. 0 By tachii#58314 6 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) Delay one turn. Finally a buff. Who knows how long it will get to NA though. ;_; 0 By Qurrgoth#38476 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) I am looking forward to Liu Bei's 3xTPA UVO. At that point, I'll have: GGY Leader, 3.5x to team Liu Bei, 3xTPA Liu Bei, 3xTPA ADKZ, TPA + orb change Draggie Zeal, 2.5x Should be some pretty good damage for TPAs, and able to do less damage when needed via 3 or 5 orb combos. 0 By Leogachi#68161 5 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Can someone please explain to me why I would want this monster? 1 Firenmage#50137 5 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) For a gonia team he's currently the most important sub for boss burst. While you could use a woosdie or knight if your team is mostly balanced, for teams without balanced subs (i.e. avalon drake, premium sub) then draggie is really key for damage. Hopefully he gets another active buff, or rather skill up dungeon of some sort. 1 Having to run the regular (and limited time only) Draggie dungeon with low Cost teams AND evolve the regular Draggie just for skill ups that may not even occur is awfully harsh. I'd say a new skill up dungeon for evolved Draggie with an additional skill up fodder or even a permanent version of Draggie's regular dungeon would be great. Oh, that additional skill up fodder could be on par with those either Pirates, Mugs, and 'rons (Winron, etc.) with meh to okay stats at least. Or perhaps it could be part of some rotating skill up fodder change similar to the Legend/Mythical-tiered Evp Materials. UPDATE: It took a couple years, but GungHo JP FINALLY realized the error of their ways and gave Draggie's base form the same skill as its evolved forms (its original skill was phased out). Prior to that, Dragon Fruits were used as skill-ups for the evolved Draggie form before they became skill-ups for Julie and Balboa. Last edited by Pikagami 3 years ago ( 11.1.1 ) 0 By Rai#75453 5 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) I was thinking of adding him to a Sonia gran team.... Thoughts ? -2 By 1337derp#24946 6 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) ADK Zeal is easier to ult. evo, Enhances more ATK,and costs less (24) 1 Sacchi#30153 6 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) But doesn't have that delicious active skill which is why anyone would ever get a slime in the first place. -2 By Fausto#40736 5 years ago ( 7.5 ) Can anyone confirm if the max level ultimate guaranteed skill up thing works with this guy? I mean actually tried it? Yeah he doesn't go up to level 99 but there's an uvo. it must work right? Last edited by Fausto 5 years ago ( 7.5 ) -3 By potajC:#63766 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) cough cough excuse me if im wrong but this is actually EASIER to skill up lol. other than the obtainability factor, the last THREE evos all have the same skill name and skill. So you really just have to evo the first one AND the material is pretty easy to get :) 0 Momo#55572 5 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) Mythrils can be a pain to obtain. And even so, there are a ton of other power monsters that require it for evo. (Each of the Japanese 1 gods require 2, for instance.) The tricolor jewel dragon kings are frequent enough by comparison. I've maxed my King Bubblie, and my Flammie, Woodsie and even Shynee are 4/5. (Just got my Baddie up to 3, but mostly due to bad luck denying me more skillups.) -4 By kai@HNL#18788 6 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) LOL uh guys.......? you all do realize your comparing ADK to the slime set= shynee, baddie, flamie, bubblie, woodsie and draggie? hahaha but you all are probably rite. they shouldent have even added the leader skill its pointless |
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