Surging Demon Lord, Belial

Two king baddies? Ronia, Belial, Ifrit/Shiva, Hear-Ur, Baddie, and Ronia friend are what I prefer in most instances. Against water/light, having the extra dark is very useful, particularly with Ronia's active. Also, it's nice to have a color that does a little damage rather than always a ton at once, that way you can board control and get actives ready.

Lu Bu would love to kick that baddie off your team.

eh... he kinda screams fire tho.. and with red sonia .. the second baddie makes up for the dark sub ... also i think they wanted him supreme over twin star ifrit so there is no argument... ? ... guessing also V V V if he isnt being used on a devil team or fire team then whats the big deal about.... WAIT A MINUTE... is this about a luci team??? smh well ... try this guy with the new ult uzume and you`ll wish he NEVER had a dark

At this point I'd just say we may as well wait for an Awoken form with a new skill, but I doubt gungho even remembers this guy exists..

I just rolled him and I'm like wtf STILL NO SKILL UP MATERIAL! With his 7 cd max he could be so awesome :(

same here...ugh....such an awesome devil sub for half fire/dark team. The way I manage is to put him on a team heavy with awoken skill ups. can usually get it down to 10 or so.

The dark sub offered 30% instead of 10% extra damage, but that assumes you matched a lot of dark. This guy's major role is as a sub for RSonia, Shiva, and to a lesser extent Hera-Ur. You will be matching rows of red on those teams, which will make the sub red on him a lot nicer than 10% sounds as it will get the 20% increase from his awakenings and the row awakenings of your leaders and other fire subs. It also makes him less likely to be bound.

I am not saying that red is an upgrade but it definitely isn't a downgrade for the teams he fits on best anyway.

Well with the row enhancements of Ronia, Belial, Ifrit, and Ronia friend, the damage may be a little more. I haven't calculated it though.

I just calculated it using this (http://rugiabaku.com/calDamage.html). From what I found it really seems to depend on how you do with Draco Summing Circle and what other subs you use. Also, I only calculated it using the two Sonias, Belial and Ifrit.
Assuming you get a perfect change resulting in 18 fire orbs and 12 dark orbs and are able to get them all in the proper rows giving you 3 rows of fire and 2 of dark and you use Ifrit's skill (giving an extra 1.3 damage multiplier to fire) then the damage difference become negligible with a slight favorite toward the F/F Belial. The totals are:
F/F
Fire damage-1,709,110
Dark damage-76,588
Total damage-1,785,698

F/D
Fire damage-1,647,880
Dark damage-106,376
Total damage-1,754,256

The difference between the two totals (31,442) isn't too noticeable when looking at the full damage output and can be tipped in either sides favor with the right subs (ones with plus orb awakenings or row enhances of fire or dark would change things a lot). It all depends on what else you have to use.

Evo him for a red heavy R Sonia team otherwise he will actually do less damage. However he will help you meet those HP thresholds which isn't bad and is pretty important for a Ronia team.

Of course, the last slot is Asuka.

Always.

Forever.

The ultimate waifu.

Clefspeare, I like your thinking. Your idea for making a Krishna team is top-notch. First, I love my Krishna. If he was real, but tiny, I'd hold him in my hand and squeeze his little blue body and stroke his tiny hat with a feather every morning and feed him cornflakes from a tiny spoon. Anyway, as for your idea, I like it. Belial's got some nice atk and orb change. I was thinking about Uriel as well, with the heal-orb change. But orb-change in general is good - you're right about that. I was pretty lucky and got double RSY to go with my Krishna, so it's all fun at the circus.

Scenario 1 and it works that way with leader, active and awoken skills.

True, the sword is a little hard to see, but I think his art work still looks really cool

Skill ups please!

Buffed his AS to 7 turn max so now he could be just as good as those guys---if only he'd get freakin skill up fodder already!

What? Some cards are made to be leaders, others more for subs. Look at the awoken skills on this guy. He has essentially the best skills for a fire devil. You are basing value purely off of leader skills, which is silly. You only have one leader, but 4 subs...

Right he is like hellfire pyros master... and twice as good ...respectivly... you wouldn`t put a dark sub on hellfire so ...

You're not Jerry@LL. You'll never be as close to making no sense from him.

Don't lie. You just failed at copying jerry and are trying to pretend like you're not

I catch your drift, tokyo. But I'm not a rapper.

Yeah Krosis don't be a- oh wait now that you mention it, this "flaming" demon lord does look like he can't wait to get "physical".

*sigh* if only your name was Jerry@LL then this type of outburst would be acceptable. At least you're not the guy who admitted to using his Robin as fodder!

Uh yeah, truth is I was making perfect sense, this could be interpreted as s3xual imagery. Just because I'm trying to be funny doesnt mean Im trying to be like Jerry.

Dont lie? I was just saying what popped into my head. If you dont like it bury it with downvotes, whatever, but dont accuse me of copying some other user for trying to be funny.

You should have fed the Robins to Anubis, its only natural.

I would if i had anubis :( i want him so bad

Yea that was me. Im wayyyy better then this guy
robin sucks i hate him
Echidna had a good snack