Pure Demon Lord, Astaroth
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0 By MaxX#29599 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Would've been great if she had a dragon type for either evo so she could've been the Belial to Green Sonia teams. 0 By LanceRaiku#25399 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Rather than looking at the devil type I think it's possible to make a Wood row based attacker team using her. I can see some possible subs such as Mari & Eva, Astaroth, Griffin, Michael, Gaia, Sasuke, etc. Can I get any opinions on this? 1 Lauranty#11226 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Currently I think the best leader for Green Attacker team is Zhuge Liang. Possible subs include Sasuke, Marine Rider, Astaroth, etc. Sasuke and Marine Rider have two-pronged attack which match nicely with Zhuge Liang's and they have relatively short orb-changing active skills. Artemis, Meimei, and Gronia are good for getting a lot of wood orbs at once and Kushinada Hime makes activating Zhuge Liang's leader skill easier. Although these are not attacker types, two Zhuge Liangs give 16x atk for just being a wood monster and he is very strong by himself anyway. Overall, I think Astaroth is a nice sub, but she is outshone by other better green subs because her orb changing skill takes too many turns to charge and green attacker teams seem to rely heavily on two-pronged attacks, not row enhances. Last edited by Lauranty 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 1 Skyknight#11392 6 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) Recently, Japan's received Ishida Mitsunari, whose leader skill wants attackers. Also note that he has two wood row enhancements. Pure Astaroth, you've just been volunteered along with Moon Artemis (THREE wood row enhancements). 0 Thanks sir, your post made alot of sense. I am thinking of pumping exp into either astaroth or sasuke. I decided on sasuke mainly influenced by your post. 0 By TASTEEFIRE#29273 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) I went with devil Mei Mei so i think this evo is good for my team... although if i was going strictly perseus ... i would go with healer... i never was impressed with astaroth`s leader skills but i find these evos to make for a great sub Mie mei /attacker astaroth/ dragon zombie/Baal ultimate/king baddie..... still have plenty rcv 0 By Davvinchi#29456 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) With the new concept of Chaucemar's LS being sub dependent, maybe she could get an extra .5x across the board if he is on the team with her as leader? Last edited by Davvinchi 7 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 0 By Unkownism#22367 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Definitely gonna make my 1st Godfest REM monster this version, the healer is nice & all but I prefer attacker sets, plus she can go in a Fury Ares team. She can also replace my Hellwind Taur for wood attacker cause the extra dark with my DMeta & Fury Ares is lovely! 0 By Inagaki#26667 7 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) I just so love the artwork, especially the colour of her hair ! 0 By Morganthe#52413 7 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) So, I'm thinking about putting together a team, and I'm wondering if it's any good. Demon Lord Astaroth - Ronia - Hamahime - Hell Creating Archdemon Lucifer - Big Baddie - Demon Lord Astaroth Burst through most floors, on bosses Ronia+Hamahime+Lucifer+Baddie=Full board enhanced dark orbs FTW. Is this team effective? What would be a better team? 1 SymptumX#3516 7 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) using astaroth's active after ronia would give you full g/d board which would allow you to make use of row enhances and clears up space to get rid of hamahime to put in someone better like devil bastet or g/d fafnir or devil meimei...something to think about 0 By Firenmage#50137 7 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) With Baal's balance just incoming, I can't help but notice that his 1.25hp unconditional really aids the team in staying above the 50% hp range a bit easier than astaroth, granted his subs have lower hp but I can't help but think they should make her rcv unconditional? Course if you have Ceres as a sub you're really in the optimal position to stay above 50% Last edited by Firenmage 7 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 0 By grace#50923 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Astaroth + Cachemar + hera-beorc + D/D Luci + Zombie Dragon + Astaroth/Lu Bu = pure grass demon tank!!!! Plus, almost all are farmable except lovely astaroth herself and D/D Luci who can be filled in with any good devil/grass type sub! 0 By _#44160 6 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) Embarrassing that the active starts at 17 turns for an orb changer. (Longer than the objectively stronger Chinese gods actives..) 0 By Cura#75281 6 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) Could someone explain with numbers how "Counter 3x damage taken with Wood for 4 turns" work? For instance, what happens if an opponent tries to hit for 20.000, your team is maxed HP, one leader is Green Odin (80% damage reduction) and maxed Astaroth (att 1680) is a sub? 1 Mr.Deadman#41539 6 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 3x the damage you physically take, not the initial hit. So if you were hit for 1000, and take only 200 damage with Odin's LS, the counter would be for 600, not 3,000. 0 By Cura#75281 6 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) Could someone please explain with numbers how "Counter 3x damage taken with Wood for 4 turns" work? For instance, what happens if an opponent tries to hit for 20.000, your team is maxed HP, one leader is Green Odin (80% damage reduction) and maxed Astaroth (att 1680) is a sub? 0 By Tigrr#26123 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) I hope they take another look at the archdemons. I feel like they could've used a different awakening set for each uvo. This astaroth could have been fun for a green zuoh team if she had two TPAs instead of the rows. -1 By 白の雪の夢#36234 7 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) just realized she is a great sub for green zhuge liang attacker team lol 6 Zoro#42457 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) I would just like to note that she is in fact a poor GZL sub as she lacks quick orb changing and any sort of prongs. She is far more suited for a green attacker row teams as opposed to 2-pronged teams. -1 By -Striku-#37071 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Should I give up on the hp boost on leader skill and go on the offensive with this evo or do the other one and get a boost in all stats? 1 Seventh#22450 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) If your enemy is dead, how can they hit you back? The best defense is an unstoppable offense. Except 22k pre-emptives. You just curl up and cry at that point. (note: I wouldn't actually take a team lead by this astaroth into any difficult descends. While she may appear to be a poor man's rsonia, their choice in subs make astaroth's teams far weaker than rsonia. Not to mention, rsonia herself is far more powerful/useful than astaroth.) Last edited by Seventh 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 1 @nguu: The entire point of ronia is that your firepower come from awakenings (row enhance) while the ronias themselves supply the on-demand burst and RCV (6.25x rcv keeps you alive through anything short of a OHKO from the boss). The astaroth team you suggested looks like it has similar stats in the HP and ATK departments compared to your cookie cutter ronia team (sonia/sonia/shiva/belial/lubu/sonia) but lacks in row enhances, skill boosts, and most crucially, RCV. Not to mention, no full board changer for that boss-killing burst. Ceres' full heal is not really an acceptable substitute for 6.25x RCV when its on a 10 turn cd minimum. Which leads to me to skyknight's comment... @skyknight: That was the whole point of my post :L shes great vs anything she can one shot, and fumbles on anything she cant. I like her as much as any other 9x lead to farm regular dungeons/easier descends with; I wouldn't do difficult descends with her. Last edited by Seventh 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 0 Astaroth - Hera-Beorc - Evil Ceres - Zombie Dragon - King Baddie/Lu Bu - Astaroth Looks quite promising to me, but it's a shame that I don't own a Ceres...... 0 Not much help in cases where NO offense is going to be unstoppable, or at least no further than a 3HKO. Some of use prefer to play it safe, and NOT run the ragged edge of disaster (one fumble with the orbs is all it takes...). 0 Yeah, RCV is a problem. So, since my Hera-Beorc is not max-skill now, I will test this on King of God when the Uvo arrives in US. Except Ceres (I decide to use Gaia though), all other monsters are farmable, and a farmable Ronia team have less row and skill boost compare to this team. Though, 5 rows is enough to get over 6 million of burst damage according to my calculation. Conclude: if you are lucky enough (or IAP - I am not both) to pull a good REM-based Ronia team, then this team sucks.... otherwise, it's debatably good. Edit: actually, the Ceres slot can be anything that helps the RCV problem; I've just realized that JDDJ works great too. Last edited by nguuu@PV 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 0 @Seventh Hera-Beorc turns all orbs to wood. Zombie Dragon enhances wood (and dark) orbs, and then baddie for the extra burst. The biggest problem would be stalling the 30 rounds it takes for H.B.'s skill to charge. And then there's also the loss of row enhance awakenings. Still, when I get that stupid green mask, I'm going to play around with this team. Might not be able to do the hardest dungeons, but could be fun to play around with. 0 Lu Bu is a bad sub for this team unless you plan to have Ceres's active up everytime ou use him: he brings the HP down to 1! Which means: Astaroth's Leader skill won't work unless you recover your life first. 0 sadly that wont work for almost any high level descendeds... notice how the number of anubis and attribute matching teams increase as the number of ama-odin and 2x hp 2xATK teams slowly dwindle off (a few excepts but largely true) 0 Astaroth Awoken Freyja Zuoh Awoken Ceres Sasuke Astaroth This team is equipped with 10 rows, quick orb changers, full board change, 8 skill boosts. If you need 100% Skill bind resist, then run 2 awoken Freyja and bard robin on your team. This will put you at 12 rows but not that many orb changers. You're welcome. -1 By BreaKBeatZ#23994 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) This card has very little synergy with devil teams. The suggestion of Astaroth - Hera-Beorc - Evil Ceres - Zombie Dragon - King Baddie/Lu Bu - Astaroth just shows how poor she will perform compared to a dark/red devil team. Unless you max skill Hera-Beorc, you only have 1 orb shanging skill which usually won't OHKO a boss, even with orb enhance of zombie dragon. Her awakenings are good, her stats are sub par, her active skill (along with the rest of the archdemons) is one of the worst, and her leader skill is outclassed by Lu Bu and all of the demons that give 3.5x attack, many of which are farmable. Most (if not all) cards that require you to maintain a certain HP range give a better multiplier than 3x. I'll probably go with the G/G evo even though that one's pretty bad too. Luci without morningstar is a lot worse, and she no longer gets a hp boost from luci. However, the G/G evo is pretty unique so maybe I'll find a use in the future. -1 By Skyknight#11392 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Using Bing and Google to estimate the translations... Name: Naive Demon God, State Minister Astaroth Leader Skill: Coached Impact 2 巨人に食われた学生#44578 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) This is why you don't use those google trans or bing trans. They're 95% of the time wrong! It actually says "The Naive Sir Demon God・Astaroth". 卿 is actually a title you give to some one that's important. For example, ニュートン卿 (which says Sir Newton). In this case, the name says 魔神 (demon god) then 卿. So the proper translation would be closer to "Sir Demon God". It may sound wierd but that's what it says. The only parts that gtran and btran got right was that アスタロト is Astaroth and that 天真 means "to have no bad/evil intentions" which would be basically the same as "naive". Unfortunately, the leader skill name is made up and actually has no meaning. Although the NA version of her name may be different, I assure you that's what her name actually translates to. -1 By 安心您#48761 7 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) The naming see s to be inversed imo. "Pure" demon lord Astaroth should of been G/G hence the word "pure" while the dreaming demon lord should of been G/D as in dark = sleep 0 ToyLeaf#54921 7 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) Well its "Pure Demon" so having a dark does make sense. but yea i get what your trying to say. -2 By Bahamut#19980 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Dont tell me theres a side of a slice of green tea cake sinking on the ground... -2 By Jambo#51540 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Astaroth's evos are remarkably underwhelming. ;) A Dragon subtype would have made her a tier 1 sub for those Gonia users like myself. -6 By Apate4256#48352 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) I always wondered, why is Astaroth a female in PAD when the devil Astaroth is clearly a male? I mean, at least the other archdemon's appearances fit what they should be. 1 Skyknight#11392 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) It may be with a nod to the fact that "Astaroth" is generally considered to be derived from "Astarte", a FEMALE Canaanite divinity. 0 and wasn't baal also from caanite mythology? they get their demon class monsters from less christian sources. |
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