Norn of the Future, Skuld

You advertised this so well I think Im gonna get my Skuld up before my Andromeda now... Darn you lol!

I never said skuld was better. Im just trying to convince ppl to use her since shes still not well known.
But according to ur logic yes the other two give an hp boost which is nice but skuld is a physical type. Max out her hp in plus eggs and she alone has 5k hp. Two maxed skulds is 10k. Plus instead of making all the teams blue green u could use other physical water types which are both high in hp and plentiful in numbers. Hermes makes an excellent sub for he changes orbs and high in hp. Same with siegfried. Just stick one healer blue green such as umisachi or blue flower dragon and that combined with skuld is enough for rcv. Rest can be high hp subs.


Not to mention she doesnt have an uevo yet.

In the end she can easily lead a team with around 25-30k hp just because she is physical so in the long run she isn't lacking..just check the japanese players who use her. Plus she has the rcv to heal out all that hp and makes it easier to go fruther bc of her ability to bounce back to full health which is a little harder with verdandi and urd.Overall shes an excellent leader.

Also one other thing you could use blue rows for skuld. Andromeda comes to mind. Not to mention the new lakshmi the blue water wizard or the blue water ninja hatsume. And blue flower dragon starling. there are a lot of subs that have tpa and rows and just bc she has tpa doesnt mean you have to be restricted to just tpa.

Final note on hp. Since most teams are based on spiking these days that much hp isnt needed. U just need enough to survive their preemptive strikes and the goal would be to kill them before they dish out their huge move. Skuld teams have enough hp to survive that. Plus a lot of monsters these days reduce ur hp to 1%. I persoanlly have mini panic attacks when that happens and having bomb recovery makes me feel more secure and a better player loll

Not a brag comment. I am simply sharing my practical point of view when it comes to Skuld and how she compares to the ever-so-loved Ronia.

I run Skuld, Blonia, UmiYama, Blodin, B/B Orochi, Skuld. While I admit it's quite the luxury build; being all REM units, it has 26.1k HP and about 5.8k RCV before + eggs (easily 8.2k if you have +297 leads).

Why I think Skuld is a better lead than Ronia, statistically:
It's been said that Ronia's RCV boost is somewhat overkill considering her low HP threshold. Skuld has a decently high max HP threshold naturally, no leader skills required, and makes great use of her x4 RCV for wood units. If you sub a +297 Lu Bu in as one of your leads, a Ronia team with an average of about 3.2k HP per unit will have a max HP threshold of around 26k. While Sonias leader skill will build off the entire team in most cases, not all devils are known for their RCV stat. Throwing together a quick team of Ronia, Persephone, 2 D/D Hakus, R/D Hera, and Lu Bu(+297) as an example, I get a team that heals around 4k from 3 heal orbs, no combos. I'm sure there are other teams that would have greater RCV, and some that would have less. 4 orb changers and 2 buffers strikes me as a viable team though, so that's what I'll go off. For most dungeons I'd imagine 4k RCV would be more than enough but for top tier dungeons (which is what I'd imagine most of us are more interested in when it comes to comparing two amazing leaders), I'm not sure 4k RCV would save your hide, if they are hitting you for 25k damage a turn on multiple floors. As far as the LS attack boosts go, a 3~3.3 multiplier with an HP threshold requirement strikes me as more useful than a 2.5~3 multiplier with a combo requirement. I'm not saying Ronia is useless by any means; I think she's a great lead and capable of conquering many, many great dungeons, and if you have her you should consider yourself a lucky player. I just don't believe Ronia deserves so much more publicity, when Skuld can easily tackle just as many dungeons as Ronia.

tl;dr:
Skuld should be just as much sought after as Ronia--if not more. She naturally draws from a high HP sub pool, makes efficient use of the RCV aspect of her leader skill without having to pick between too high RCV (Ronia/Ronia) and perhaps less than desirable RCV (Ronia/Lu Bu), and has a superior attack boost for her team.

still tl;dr:
Don't feed Skuld to your Crystal Aurora Dragon--she's not a chew toy.

Lol thank you. When I first rolled Skuld, I was extremely disappointed because I did not understand her value then. No one really uses her, and URD seems to be the more popular one of the Norns. I did some research and realized her value :)
I hope you love her as much as I do now!

Verdandi's lack of rcv is a bit troubling at times. I would still suggest some +rcv investment. Still, You can go Verdandi, Liu Bei, Liu Bei, GZL, GZL, Verdandi and you have one hell of a team. Though the same comp with Osiris instead of Verdandi is just that much better and he has a rcv multiplier and 3.5x atk. Bascially, besides ease of use, anything Verdandi can do, Osiris can do better.

I think her ult will have to add some rcv or rcv multiplier and then an extra tpa or an extra atk boost at x combos, two rows, etc. Or an extra tpa AND a skill based atk boost. Holy crap that would be awesome!

Love your post. I just rolled this Godfest and got a 2nd Ronia and a Skuld. Ronia's use is obvious since not only she a great sub for herself, but have a RGY collecting dust in my box.

Skuld however, that's a real interesting roll. I was wondering what I could do with her when I saw your post. I have Hermes and a max B/R Seigfreid (Kirin sub currently). Looks like she's one of the Godfest exclusives that doesn't require whaling the REM to fit in good subs. Happy to join the club! :D

I got Skuld and Verdandi. At first, I was wondering if they were even good at all, but I saw a few people using Verdandi and was told that Skuld is better. So now I'm pretty happy that I got those two. Luckily, I have D.Karin, Top Droid Dragon, and King Bubblie. I have an unevo'd Guan Yinping, Hermes, and Berserk so I'm pretty happy that I might have a really good team in the making :) I wanna join the Skuld Love! \( - ' v ' - )/ (*trying to level her up to evolve her atm)

Edited:
I use a water team with Skuld as leader with Ult.Hermes, Mirage Plesios (or Top Droiddragon), D.Karin, and Andromeda (or King Bubblie). This team helped me get through a lot of dungeons! I just need to level them up more. Skuld's leader skill helps me so much! Now, I appreciate physical type monsters. Skuld's skill + Hermes + Blodin (friend leader) + Mirage Plesios / King Bubblie = full board with enhanced water orbs and water enhancement/physical enhancement

Lol the awesome part is, Andromeda works really well in a Skuld team :DDD

Guys, don't forget umiyama.

The problem with paulina(as well as hrungnir, another orb enhancer), is that their recovery sits squarely at zero, essentially wasting the wood-subattribute part of her leader skill. With blodin getting a buff to enhance water orbs, you might as well use him for the massive triple-tpa damage.

Help me,i have a terrible skuld team
The Norn Skuld
Blue Trifruit
Blue Trifruit
Dub emelit
Dub mythlit

I can only use this on my 4th account, which is european, since i am only rank 36

"I never said skuld was better."

My apologies. I have heard countless times on the PAD Global FB page that Skuld is in fact the best Norn but I didn't get a chance to ask them why before the post way buried among godfest rolls and such. I figured given your enthusiastic support for Skuld, you'd be among those who consider her the best Norn and would be able to aptly explain why.

I run all team comparisons under the assumption of 0 +eggs because despite what the vocal minority would lead you to believe, getting large amounts of +eggs is no easy feat, especially if you're non iap.

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The team in your youtube video would only have 22k HP without any +eggs.

A Verdandi team of
Verdandi, Delgado, Cu Chu, Liu Bei, Artemis, Verdandi

has 25k HP without any +eggs and thats without Artemis' 3k HP being doubled since she does not have a Fire sub element. It also has 2.2k RCV.

If we took the team in the video and subbed out Berry Dragon and Paulina with U&Y and Muse, it'd still have around 22k HP with 6.4k RCV.

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Edit: I realized that an argument could be made for both after doing the calculations. Liu Bei doesn't get Delgado's Balance spike but brings 3 TPAs to the team as well as good orb change. Meanwhile, everyone on the Skuld team gets Muse's God spike but less orb changers on the team overall.

"Since most teams are based on spiking these days that much hp isnt needed. U just need enough to survive their preemptive strikes and the goal would be to kill them before they dish out their huge move"

While this is true, I don't agree that the Norns are suited for that. There are plenty of 25x teams that can meet the HP requirements for preemptives and are better at spiking. Imo, the Norns were designed to be the middle ground of a tank team and spike team. They have some of the desirable stats of a tank team (HP and RCV) while also having decent offensive stats (10.89x ATK and TPAs).

I would have done a comparison with Urd but I couldn't come up with a good Urd team and I didn't agree with some of the team compositions on her page.

I see ur point without plus eggs skuld team would have about that much hp yet I believe that a most non-iap player like like me can at least make 2-3 maxed plussed eggs so maybe a little more. . When it comes to pure spike obviously a 25x lead would be better. Heck ra anubis kushinada or the kalis make the 25x seem weak in comparison as well. I personally have both durga and umisatchi and yamasatchi so I know their power but they are high risk high gain. Skuld is a good balance who with the right subs can take on most high level dungeons. This is why I compared skuld with the sonias. They hold their own but for pure damage obviously those insane multipliers are the true winners.
I like her. She enables me to defeat a majority of the dungeons with relative ease. Im just sad that the norns have gotten pushed back the way they did. heck until i got one i thought they were whatever too. No one really mentions them. They arrived when too many monsters were getting insane ultimates and now with the crazy strong special gods that came out recently in japan the norns have fallen into obscurity. I believe players belittle the norns power and i want others to realize their value. They are similar to the sonias and they deserve to be desired like the sonias. If they had come out shortly before this onslaught of new gods they would be as big as the sonias. I want ppl to know that, Lol thats is my goal anyways.

Plus I believe that gungho will do an amazing ultimate for them so their "weakness" cant really last long. All the special got great ultimates so hopefully these later special gods will get some well deserved love ;)

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I agree. Can't recover if you can't take a hit.

So don't pair her with another Skuld.

Yep I'm totally with you. I have a lv 48 skuld with 51+ eggs add me. FC:- 340,165,373.

I like Skuld too, but I honestly don't see why she's better than Verdandi and Urd which have better leader skills imo. Verdandi gives the team much needed HP to be able to take hits, and Urd does the same thing to a lesser degree but also gives much needed recovery to fire teams.

Skuld teams would have 4x RCV which is ridiculously overkill given how much HP you would have. For that matter, double Ronias were stupid since you didn't need that much RCV. This is why Ronia + Lubu came to be, since Ronia provided RCV while Lubu provided the HP. All the RCV in the world wouldn't mean anything if you can't take a hit in the first place.

I'm definitely getting my Skuld up as a farming team, but I deviated away from 9x teams for a reason.

(Ronia teams are "stronger" because row enhancements help the whole team. Norn teams rely on two prongs and there aren't very good two prong subs for Skuld other than U&Y and Blue Valk)

Best Sonia = Red
Best Odin = Green
Best Norn = Blue.


Fits Perfectly.

Good eye! I didn't notice at first but Skuld is 6-7 star, whereas Urd and Verdandi are 5-6 star.

HP/10 + ATK/5 + RCV/3 = weighted stat.

It is just a relatively easy way to compare cards. Some however do not fit this system well, such as Satan.

Get out of here lol

Best sonia is blue
Best odin is blue
Best norn is debatable

I'm sorry but I am a bit confused, what does it mean to have a high weighted stat value and why is that valuable?

Haven't you seen the new UEvo for Blue Odin? That sh!t is OP.

Hmm, so Skuld with Vampire is like an extra Karin active.

This rarity/awakenings is similar to what they do with the Odins/Sonias.

Blue UVO Vamp - perfect fit.

So true, thouugh i think best odin is red, since his posion reks extreme king metal dragon

Using the same logic the 6-star monsters are still better because they can also receive uvos eventually.

Just look at what happened to BOdin.

Quad 2-prong Skuld uvo plz

??? Her legs are clearly shown.

What I think he means is that her legs look mechanical. They may or may not be boots, but, if they are, then they kinda look like they attack to her legs.

In other words, he thinks they are prosthetic like the characters in Star Fox.

There is still a need if you are using orb changers or Skuld's active because color changed orbs are not enhanced.

It sounds nice but......light zhuge liang is a dude......and it sounds like you had se× with a dude

Because her base is 6 stars while the others are 5.

She looks to the future, the future of more awakenings

She is the gr/bl/onia of the group