Dread Lord, Darkseid (Comics)

He's got a really bad attitude. The low rating reflects his "people skills" in the annual employee evaluation.

I think you're even underrating him.

1) Darkseid has very good HP, so slotting him into a devil team to bust through defense (hello Hera-Ur Mythical!) isn't going to hurt your ability to soak hits. This is pretty crucial, since the other options are off-type and he's still got the best HP available.

2) Darkseid also has very good ATK, to the point that he'll be one of the highest on the team. There's some offensive power lost due to lacking a row enhance, but that's really only an issue for a player who's IAP or has some good luck - because a farmable team isn't going to be stacking row enhance heavily to begin with.

3) A heavy IAP player has other options to bust through super high defense, like having stacked up row enhances and just using an extra orb changer or spike active, or they can just run with a Ronia friend if the enemy is tankable like Ifrit in Hera-Ur.

4) The awakenings aren't bad, especially for a farmable. Enhanced Dark Orbs is being buffed, and Skill Boost is the most universally useful awakening in the game. It'd be nice if there were more of them, but they still have decent synergy with the teams that'll actually use Darkseid.

5) Water sub-attribute means he can provide color coverage when needed, and he's got enough ATK that (paired with a Vamp) you could actually use it for some sniping potential.

3X devil leader. Farmable. No Dub-Mythlit needed to evolve.

That is all.

Easy.... cus half the people who rate things on this site are retarted and like to high rate things because they are "cute" or waifu material.

His LS is not bad either if you are lacking a good dark devil lead.

Wow, you're right.

I just saw him as a decently statted situational sub that even worked for cost limit (un-evo'd). There's really no other currently (meaning, none outside of a collab) attainable farmable monster that ignores defense.

But... his stats, and that skill boost.... impressive.

Thanks for your comment :)

Still easier to get.

Hera-Ur: No expert mode, need a strong REM team to beat, denied
Hadar: Pretty good but multiplier is weaker and you'll need a lot more stamina and a KEEPER OF GOLD. Would prefer Kirin or even Golems
Satan: Not everyone has the one true god, plus you want RCV if you are using Ronia
Mephistopheles: Look above, although he has RCV, have fun with an off-color lead and not so good HP
Beelzebub: Meh
DQ Hera: How to get Devilits?
Illuminati: NO

To add even further, he's only 5 star (with a good leader skill), which makes him perfect as a S rank team leader. I'd say he's worth 6 or 7 stars considering his stats and leader skill, don't you think??

Leader skill is good for a farmable monster if the REM hates you.

The guy's good when you already have great devil subs.

And to add to that, Ronia teams would want him for his HP, (obviously to kill high defense subs that would be annoying), and a Skill Boost awakening is decent for a collab boss.

No it's not. There are many better non REM devil leads.

You're rating him based on how easy he is to obtain. That's ridiculous. He is bad, and he should be rated low. If someone can only beat easy dungeons then he might be suitable for their bad devil team.

The reason he's low rated is because there are only 5 categories to rate, which aren't great for him:

Awakenings are terrible.
Leader skill is bad.
Appearance shouldn't even be a category IMO, but it's average I guess.
Team synergy is only good in teams where you need defense avoiding direct damage against enemies that are immune to status changing effects.
Active skill - see above.

If you could rate stats or cost, he would be higher.

Exactly. Looking forward to farming this big boy and max skilling him. My devil teams greatly welcome his active. This might help Satan builds defeat the descends that have bosses with super high defense, low hp, and fertile guard!

I hope this guy is not REM exclusive.....otherwise the skill ups will be basically impossible. But I'm guessing if anything this will be the final boss of the collab dungeon?

I think they mentioned on the official facebook page that he was the collab boss.

Pretty darn sweet for a 20 cost monster!

Only the heroes are REM.

Those with inifinite stones have a new option for a 4-button press King Carnival team:

Lead: Rodin/Blodin/Tengu (3 skill boosts)
Friend: Anyone with 2+ skill boosts
Sub: 4x Max skill, 1+ awoken Dread Lords
Options->Dungeon->Skills: Off

It sounds crazy but it's still easier to make than 4 max skilled Rodins.

The rest of us can stick to dual Satan + 1st turn Quickbomb...

I'm planning on having one max skilled and evo'd for general use, then 4 to cheese through weekday dungeons. If time permits, one max skilled unevo'd as a conditional sub.

Bejeweled is pretty fun, isn't it?

Wish I could beat top level, so I could get him.

Yeah no kidding. I only beat expert using my healer team and my mutsuki as lead with a uevo'd siren as helper.

He is easier to max skill than Bane since he is a 100% drop on the highest difficulty, you just need a bit of luck with the skill ups so it take less time.

This team won't be able to kill the twinlits.

I'm going to guess you were expecting something near to a cut-and-paste of the Dragon Ball collaboration. Looking at the Facebook page, I get the feeling quite a few people were.

Truth be told, though, I can understand why Gung Ho doesn't want collaboration creatures to (markedly) overshadow anything from the REM or descents. Collaboration creatures aren't as consistently available, so I can see how people might feel frustrated at being told they "need" one for a given dungeon--or if it even LOOKS like one is needed.

I started playing durring the last batman collab, and didn't keep any of the monsters because i didn't think they were good. ive regretted that ever since. this collab doesn't seem as good, but i am definitely going to farm for darkseid like crazy.

I would argue that Batman Collab is exactly as you describe being against Gungho policy.
A lot of batman REM are highly desired...

Nnn...That WAS mostly guesswork on my part. I'm going to guess, though, that the idea behind most of the four-stars' actives (30*Attack to one foe, then double the germane type's attack for that turn) is some kind of rallying attack. As in rally the other heroes (even if calling, say, Belial a hero is open to debate). In other words, strictly flavor.

Darkseid is not fit to be deemed a god, no matter how much he claims otherwise.

You know it's been years yet every time I notice Darkseid near the top of my box while scrolling I remember this comment and never saying anything, but I'm bored with my insomnia and it's about time I set things straight.

He's a god in a very literal sense, more specifically the New God of tyranny. Most of the time we see him it's merely a physical avatar of his true power, and said avatar is typically shrunken down dramatically via a "boom tube" while his actual 4th World size varies from "average Galactus" to "can use planets like marbles". He can also remember things across universe reboots which is neat.

It doesn't. It only works on Max Leveled Ultimate evolved monsters.

I haven't tested it, but remember the guy you feed to him needs to be max level. At 5M experience each...

LOWER COST TOO!!

Just go farm Tricolor Dungeon-Legend, and do King Carnival.

Take at most an hour if you spent a few stones running super Dragon king. Better value for your stones compare to another Golem or Healer pull from the REM.