最強装備, Juggler

All those connection errors and day reloading in the middle of the day are the connection on your end, not gunho's. ( I know this because it always happens to be when my connection is on the fritz, or im using the school's wifi in a corner where the signal strength is low)

And for what its worth, this is broken not because it does 49x damage, but because it requires ONLY two heart combos. This leader is so painfully easy to activate that it completely makes ra obsolete. The only leaders that were not made less by this being released are unconditional atk/hp/rcv leaders, and both of the anubis uevos. This is why people are upset, because why should they have to match 5 different specific combos inorder to get 5x, when this one gets two specific combos for 7x

*Broken*

All they have to do is just stop giving it away.

Because a lead that can beat true endless using low-stat subs like red fairy, without requiring 8-10 combos isn't broken, right? A team that produces ungodly damage using toydragons and fruit dragons is totally exclusive to whales right?

Yeah, totally doesn't sound broken to me.

A strong character isn't broken. What's broken is every other time I try to enter a dungeon I get a connection error. Every other time I fuse monsters, I get an error. What's broken is randomly throughout the day getting a popup saying, "A new day has begun!" wtf? At 4pm?

That's what's broken. 7x, that's not broken. About 0.01% of people are going to get that card and they will all be whales and I'm totally happy about that, because maybe they'll pay enough money to fix all the broken connection errors for those of us who are non-IAP.

If you get the one super strong card out of the 2000 or so monsters, good on you! Great. Have fun with it. Get bored of it, then go back to your athena and ronia and pandora teams and have fun again.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLm6UGvVPYA

2 of these and 4 pandoras. Too broken.

If you can play Ra then using this card is a piece of cake. There are so many cards that work with this leader's skills. Krishna's lead works by matching 3 sets and this lead is asking for 2 sets of hearts plus a set of attacking set of orbs, there are many Krishna players and they do fine. @Kirihiko, was kind enough to explain how sticker girls can be useful when max skilled. Thank you. @Yellow@Pf, is also correct it is "easiest activation with the highest payout". Pandora on the other hand also works, but those are just a few out of many which changes orbs into hearts.

Nate, I usually don't like to call people out but I have been observing your posts and you display traits of distorted thinking based on clinical psychology. You always have to be "right", blaming others, personalization, overgeneralization, filtering, emotional reading, and fallacy of change. The reason I am even telling you this is that, I know as of right now, you do not like what you are reading. However, do you think the community likes to be ridiculed by your insults? Calling them ignorant just because they do not share your views? And please, don't even say you are debating, because have you ever admit you were wrong of miscalculated information, if not then are you a robot? In this case it is a misused term in this interpersonal relationship and you left no room for understanding another. If you didn't like what I have just described of you, please be kindly and not down talk others as if you are their superior.

nate so are you saying that matching two set of hearts is hard?

Put a team of 5 fire orb enhance, put in one 3-tpa kagu, simply match 2 set of heart + 4 fire orbs, and you'll have 750k damage to 2 enemies. How is that hard? Where is the taken away damage you're talking about?

This monster is simply broken.

nate, 1: the team you made up is even more luxurious than the 4 pandora team.
and 2: if you want a Non-Rem team, here is two i made: Juggler, D/L Zeus, D/D Hera, D. Sprite, D. Sprite, Juggler. D. Sprite is basically pandora just weaker so she can work. All maxed leveled and all maxed awoken. With just a simple heart + heart + 3 dark, the total base damage will be 627985 . With a heart + heart + 4 dark, 1063409 as base damage. And if you want to make a row team, same thing only this time instead of D/L Zeus and D/D Hera, we instead use 2 D/D Tiamat. Again, max awoken and max level, with heart + heart + 4 dark because of 2 prongs, base damage will be 997120 with is still very impressive. Now with heart + heart + 1 Dark row, this will give us 1606900 which can be very devastation. Now, with the juggler to D. sprite active combo, you should be able to make at least a heart row + Heart row + 2 Dark row (+ 3 dark or 4 dark if possible), this will lead to a whopping 4820968 atk (7083870 if you matched an extra 3 dark, 7902764 if you match an extra 4 dark) and this is not even counting enchanted orbs, multiplied atk on lights, skyfall, etc. All of this damage with a non-rem team with no plus. This should convince you the power of this card.
Here is calc i used if u don't believe me, ignore the 1857 in monstar part, it just a base. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IHD6qDSunUxPJFL4HtVzVGfBc2iLM-hXIrZmCVikzWY/edit#gid=47486721

why use sticker girls when you can just use a team full of pandora?

pandoras all up on first turn with max skill
pandora active synergizes perfectly with juggler's
8 row enhances with 49x multiplier
unbindable leaders
5 extra seconds of orb time giving a total of 9 seconds to match

this guy was just made for whales

Nate, don't try to justify your earlier behavior or explain yourself, you just fall more into that category. Of course you would not understand what I meant, you can learn about it during your own spare time. Based on what has occurred, the community has tried helped you understand their views on this card. Additionally, is that what it takes? People have to blast on you so you can get a clue? Then you have delusions of grandeur. People do acknowledge and take what you said in consideration but also voice their points, and they do not show it until they are more comfortable with it; and that does not make them all idiots? You didn't show any interest for this card until you saw more videos then does that make you equally or more of an idiot to begin with? Look I am not diagnosing you, honestly I do not care about you at all. I'm showing you that, as of now you do not like the fact you were violated in terms of me listing your supposedly psychological problems based on your words; so why curse out the community and then blame them for "ganging up on you" and make it seem like you are the victim. Your manipulation is game is weak, don't even start.

Oh really? Your rgy with it's 12.25 multiplier can match a 49x multiplier card?

The L's of this card is literally match 2x hearts and 1x any other element and get 49x. To date, that's the easiest activation with the highest payout. The easy activation allows you to abuse thing like rows or tpas or any other such mechanic which you choose (rows obviously being the best choice).

As for sub pool? Literally all you need is a heartmaker + other orb changer (and before you say that the fact that it needs some sub's is a weakness, just shush. Every team sans Anubis beads one or two types of cards. Orb changers being the main demand). You can sub in literally almost anything you want and it won't be bad.

And that rgy/ Krishna team which you seem to believe can be on par with juggler probably had a near full rem team. And probably requires multiple actives to get near juggler's power (a video on YouTube has juggler doing 1 mill damage per sub off of 5 combos and one orb change). So why can't juggler have a full rem team? You seem to think that juggler sucks because his full potential needs a full rem team... Guess what, that can be said for almost every lead. You don't see anyone doing challenge 10 with a fully farmable team...

stfu 'guest' we all know you are nate's new account. i mean guest posting on the same day and exact same time with your reply right after? who are you fooling??? Of course Liao24 would explain it commonly especially if his audience may not know. He/shes right, like whats wrong with your mentality. Again with this slander. Just fuk off.

did you even read mine? I didn't talk about pandora at all on my post. I actually made a non -rem team just for u to see the power of this card. And since you want something about a full sticker girl team, the team can work, but it should be a team of kurone. this team can has potencial since which each kurone has a dark row so the team will have 4 rows in total. A problem is that you can't perfect skill combo with juggler, you will end up with grass orbs still. So you can take 1 kurone and replace here with Rem monsters (anubis and pandora) or Non-REM monsters (Cathy and D.sprite). So in all, a full team of sticker girls (preferably kurone) can work, but won't have the power as other teams.

I realize what you mean by the idealized teams like 4 pandoras that few people can achieve, but do keep in mind that the comparisons you mention "Hey why don't we just run dmeta dmeta dmeta hanzo and valk dmeta," and "just use LuBu ronia ronia ronia ronia LuBu peace of cake how is that hard?" are nowhere near as broken as juggler +4 pandoras.

Specifically, on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP9Z2MqkHiw
at 0:25, when I saw just one skill used, one row, 3 combos, all on the first turn, and 2mil+ damage, I was already uneasy about Gungho releasing something so unfairly strong.

Then, at 1:35, with a brainless 1 row +5 darks, the team did over 6million damage.

Another reminder: no enhance, no boosted orbs. 80% skill bind resistance, leaders 100% bind resistance.

I do not mean to be rude to you in any way, but I can say this: No, your RGY team cannot match this team's damage.

Challenge Dungeon lv9 clear, no REM subs

http://blog-imgs-79.fc2.com/y/u/u/yuuoku/FxCDMVr.jpg

That is ultimate dragon rush. With two Hypermax juggler leads. Still that is a low IAP team with farmable subs doing end game content. Trying to balance the game A.J. (After juggler) will be hell. I think this is the beginning of the end. Its chaos in the Japanese community.

Oh woops, you're right. That's what I get for only paying attention to the thread title, I guess.
Still makes me feel stupid for carefully planning running dragon rush with Minerva.

shut up nate.r.w, stop trying to be "right" all the time.

I do, 1 ready for the new ultimate and 3 sitting, collecting dust

i have four pandas. well, 7 actually :P

what are the subs for those teams? how are we comparing them?

This was made for people bored of trying to beat hard dungeons.

I have four pandas (and still no ra...)

Your wish is granted.

Omg. Idk how more clear i can make it. I didn't believe it until i seen it. Never will i care about a team that would cost so much to get as a juggler with four pandoras. There's absolutely no way a bunch of people are doing that without dumping money. Quit googling terms

Lol wow man. You are dumb if you really think i would care that much to create another profile. It's actually probably you trying to set this stuff up

Who tries to be wrong? Lol If i think I'm right then i will defend it til I'm convinced otherwise.

"Clinical psychology"? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you sound like you just took Psych 101 or your first high school psychology class.

Your first paragraph is okay, the second half doesn't make any sense. Because if you do "observe" my posts then you would see the times when i actually feel like i was i would go back and agree and apologize. But again any time anybody says anything negative about a card on its page people automatically gang up on it. Like i mentioned before, this was all about a team of sticker girls but all you guys kept mentioning was 297 pandora teams. And you can't do psychoanalysis on a person from what they type, you know why? Because even if you read it wrong or misinterpreted my feelings then you will be way off. Just because i use curse words doesn't mean I'm angry and secretly wishing to beat people up. I can honestly say my "tone of voice" is as normal as it could possibly be. Why did i say people are ignorant? Because a sticker girl team is by no means OP. Why else? Because all people would mention at first was teams that somebody in ranks 500+ have posted. Nothing moderately normal. Yes there can be REM or it can be a full REM team but i was thinking along the lines of what most people could put together. And again I'm sorry saying all of this as casual as possible. Do i think I'm right? Sure. Would i love to be wrong and actually have a chance to get this card? Sure. I'm just now seeing moderately normal team (not all pandoras) so I'm actually feeling better about it. But i will not base my judgment off of serious (or gungho enforced) IAP videos. And with the whole guest thing, i have no idea who that is nor do i care enough to go that far. Hell you guys can have my personal information, i can be found easily on the Internet so I'm not trying to hide. Lol and if any of you get downvotes, though you probably won't, no it wasn't me either. I honestly have no hard feelings for any of you and for future reference, don't take anything i say to heart. Now can this subject be moved on?

Yes i did. My bad i didn't say your name but when i said the comment about seeing teams and then put (not all pandoras)....that started with yours and then later some other people has given me some teams. But yes i give you credit. But come on man, would you really take sticker girls in over a horus team, or a kushinada team

The stupid thing about all of this is i replied to you telling you why i think a team full of sticker girls would not be that great (like you asked) and all these people jumping in are not even talking about that. They all keep mentioning stupid full pandora teams when the whole thing was about sticker girls. Way to go 12 year oldsThis reply has been flagged as spam  Show

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Pandora is the perfect sub for a juggler team. If anything, her uvo will be used as a sub for juggler if a person obtains both.

{sweatdrop} Competition as a leader, I meant...

Don't be so sure. Notice that Juggler does nothing for HP or RCV. Some of us are defense-minded enough to care about those, in case we fumble at the very least.

Meanwhile, I understand Pandora's ultimate is giving Juggler some very stiff competition. For starters, no real time limit to acquire her. Also, having two dark row awakenings helps the damage output more than a single enhancement awakening.

Lol

Gonna put this in quotes incase he deletes his post
"And again...anubis can do it with less subs AND no x3 spike. Best lead? No i still don't think so. ESPECIALLY since it's just a picture. Now if i seen a video then i would feel otherwise"

Sonyour argument is that Anubis can clear it with less sub's. Well guess what, Anubis can clear everything, that doesn't make juggler any weaker.

Hell, if that's your argument that means every other lead sucks, why? Cause Anubis can clear everything. With less subs no less.

*scarcasm.

Honestly, the number of people who can activate Anubis on one hand probably number in the low hundreds. Compared to the millions who play this game. How many people can make 3 combos to activa ejuggler? I'm pretty sure millions of people can. Sure, Anubis can clear everything, but he's also the hardest lead to use in the game. Juggler is one of the easiest, and has one of the highest multipliers in the game. You can't really compare them. It's like comparing a lethal weapon that takes ages of training to use to a quick easy to use almost as lethal, much more consistent other weapon.

Has someone cleared TEC with Jugglers and 2nd tier slimes yet? Because it's probably possible IMO.

whoever said juggler made everything else obsolete?

go quote every post I have on this page.

Not one line do I say obsolete, or do I say anything else is weaker 'cause of juggler.

I'm sorry, maybe you were confused by the internet slang I used.

OP=over powered. Something that is overpowered is strong, really strong. Stronger than the rest of the stuff.

OP does not mean other cards are obsolete

OP does not mean kirin, krishna, pandora, etc. are weak.

OP does mean that juggler is strong, like really strong.

Go on, go look through my posts, I wont edit them.

Hey dumb@ss, you guys are the one saying jugglers making everything else obsolete but you're trying to throw me saying that about anubis in my face? Yeah real smart. Hypocrite much....let me quote you "anubis can clear anything, doesn't make juggler any weaker"......guess what? Juggler can clear whatever he wants, it doesn't stop kirin, anubis, horus, UY, ra, bastet, etc from clearing anything EITHER but yet you guys are the ones complaining about that. Lol and you wonder why i call people stupid

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Anubis doesn't put out the damage this guy puts out. This guy has x49 and access to rows. Anubis only has combos. On a normal board if you are lucky enough to get x100 at most your subs will do 1~1.5 million. If you use actives with your Anubis the damage per sub is 2~3 million. Keep in mind you need to get perfect 10 combo board to do Anubis full potential.

Juggler does 2million damage per sub with a single row and 5 combos. If you chain actives and get a perfect 3 row board with juggler you do 5mil damage per sub.

Juggler out damages every single lead in this game except a 13+ skyfall double D/D Anubis. Anything 11 combos or more is pure luck ( there are only 10 combos possible on a perfect board)

What makes juggler even more game breaking is that he works with absolute garbage cards. People are posting videos and screen shots of Dark fairy teams beating Grand Fking Sonia WTF?! There is no way normal person can consistently clear end game content with D/D Anubis with garbage subs.

He can out damage 800$ teams with 5$~60$ teams. He undermines every lead in this game. When they get around to balancing content around him this game will be broken.

You wanna hear something harsh Nate? How about $-7-F-U!! How da fcqk you gon' say Anubis is easy to use compared to this card? Are you on some L.S.D. my dude or are you using some easy combo app to help you with that $HlT. You be on every page slandering ppl like you the $HlT. Take a seat home boy, you ain't special even Jerry@LL's aunt knows.

Your arguing "anubis vs this card" when the real argument is "this guy is unbalanced". This isnt about anubis, its about how unbalanced this card is. Basically, yes anubis is a better leader but to the AVERAGE player, he is too hard (so in other words, balanced). Its pretty much a consensus that he's hard to use. Obviously it varies but the majority agree. On the other hand, this card is seen as "easy to use" therefore unbalanced. Seems way easier than ra but I cant say for certain without knowing this guys activation rate per board. It is obvious that it should probably have a much higher activation rate than ra thus making it unbalanced but again, not sure by how much.

Your basically arguing against a consensus. If you can use anubis consistently, than its a given that you should just stick with him but other people cant.
So basically. Good skill=use anubis
Normal skill= this card
And ra is approximately at a level for "normal skill" while this card is even easier to activate than ra. People see it as broken because this card, even with farmable subs, dwarfs most to all leaders in the game all while being very feasible to activate and thats just with farmable subs.

1) anubis needs 9 combos for 7x while this guy basically needs 3. 2) every leader needs at least a few rem cards to be good. 3) ease of a leader skill DOES give it more value. Example: let's say anubis has the same leader skill except that now you need 20 combos to get any benefit. Makes it less valuable right?

All this guy needs is a couple of orb changers (you basically get 2 orb changers for free) and maybe an athena for example. Also, even if this guy isnt better than anubis (you would basically need to consistently do 10 combos for anubis to be better but for that you need to rely on skydrops), you have to at least see that this card is better than basically all other cards when comparing leader skills. He basically dwarfs every leader in terms of ease and damage output.

yt is correctly! nate has no idea what he is talking about. OKay nate you say its not that hard. Instead of slandering ppl why dont you upload a video on helping ppl maybe you'll get a fuking BJ too. B1itch Azz sits behind a screen and don't do sh1it but brags on how great he is.

Where would I put kush? Well if I had her I guess in a zhuge liang team or maybe an alt for a kirin team.

Off topic but it's an interesting question, where would you place kushinada?

Well i mean ranked wise against other leaders

Do you have the link to sonia gran video? I'd like to see it before i say something......even though I've seen videos of just robin and anubis (literally just a 2 man team) beat dungeons. Can jugg do that? I'll at least settle with him and anubis being the king. Because jugg needs actives just as much as anubis right? Majority of the time a board change is instant knockout. Jugg can get orb trolled just as likely. Any board change can be less than ideal

Its a fake picture. I found that out after I posted that comment. Someone wanted to make my blood boil more. I was pretty angry at myself when I believed it.

Not really sure. I don't really see kush as strong as okuninushi, bastet, or the chinese cards so maybe as a leader she's around low/mid tier 2.

Juggler lead and friend clearing Athena descended by themselves:

http://imgur.com/P7dhQhX

Lol b!tch please. Even the other guy pointed out that Jerry's aunt knows you ain't the sh!t you think you are. Get off your high horse of "omg 8 combos is easy (lol, you're comparing 4x to 7x; let's not even talk about 10 combos) you noobs" and sit down. Go and talk to Jerry's aunt so she'll buy you enough magic stones to roll this OP dude.

Ha that's funny. I just seen this post. Even though my first comment wasn't anything about me being good or about slandering people. All that started after you guys jumped in. Sit behind a computer? Alright so then come to ohio. I'm not hiding, I'm not talking trash. I'm just tired of people complaining anubis is hard. You'd think after enough time you would be able to use him but pathetically enough people can't. They just want to complain and look for the easy route. Probably meaning most don't do enough to get a decent job. they just want to come in acting stupid after they read my rebuttal comment and not the original. If you really think you are something you can find me in ohio, north america. That is if your mom gives you permission. What else do you need? Are you wanting a picture of my paycheck as well? You are such a joke chaos. Just jumping in trying to take advantage of the situation. I haven't tried to be a hardass like the show you are putting on but yet you want to tell me how I'm sooo mean to people. Lol grow up and get some skin. If being called dumb REALLY bothers you that much, that's pretty fragile.

Honestly that can be reversed, you revert to this because you can't activate anubis because he's too "hard". Bring on the downvotes because i said something so harsh

All that says to me is you will take whatever is easier. Activating anubis is seriously not that hard. Literally almost every board contains about 8 combos without having to use an active. More often you WILL have to use an active for this guy and based off all these videos everybody keeps using as examples is with unrealistic 297 teams, obviously they put off so much damage (so does any other crazy maxed 297 team) but most people will not have those. You can see videos of literally just anubis and one or two other cards trashing dungeons, can this guy do that? No. So the power still resides in anubis

Dude, it's really not hard. You really can't do combos? There are people in this world that can. Just because it's "hard" doesn't mean people can't do it. I guess those people in NASA are using cheat codes huh? What they do is too hard, there's no way they could do what they do all the time. There are plenty of videos of people using anubis reliably, i suppose i need to start making some myself

they will have to do it even though it means lost of lots of money in refunds, because this is for the health of the game. I mean why would I roll the REM again when I got this card? All fun and challenges will be lost when you can clear everything with 3 combos.

They are making content harder like graniia and new zeus/hera, and I never heard gungho nerf anyone yet. They will probably buff everyone else instead of nerfing. They are definitely prepping monster for future cases. Gungho just making people paying for the current stuff and then more op...monster. Then 100x leader pair for something easy will appear eventually.

Orochi was nerfed way back in the day, his skill turns used to be lower by 5. Honestly I think he should get back to 20/15 now though.

a long time ago they nerfed the mastering orb change active skill from max CD 5 to 6 because it could be used unlimitedly.

Only a few days after I said this, we got a news about buffing the ONE TRUE GOD. I just knew it that, they would balance Anubis to Juggler. They can't just nerf someone who people probably spend tons of money to get Juggler in the collab.

true. mastering is farmable.

Either that, or all upcoming dungeons will be NO RCV dungeons

lolololololo GungTroll wakokokokokok

So basically they are admitting that this game is going into full power creep mode from here on out.

What sucks the most seeing stupid trash cards like this is the sad acceptance of the fact many of my favorite and only leaders (since I'm non IAP) will never ever be useful again. Suzaku and Karin and
Metatron are my only leaders. The only use able one now is Metatron. And it gets boring using her over and over. I want to use Suzaku, one of my first ever cards, on a descend for a change. I want the Chinese celestials to be at the forefront again. But with the juggler AND all these new special gods with 6x attack for the same condition Gungho should be ashamed of themselves for having such a sudden, dramatic power creep. This is just foolish. Egyptian 2.0 was pretty awesome and fresh and so was Indian 2.0. But this?? And those new special gods released today?? Ugh.

Could be a reference to the upcoming Awoken Neteru and Devas. It looks like Awoken Lakshmi will be coming up very soon, so we can extrapolate from her. At least, the other Awoken Devas.

Assuming the power creep curve will stay consistent. Maybe after the new Awoken, it will level out to a more gentle slope again?

posts "two jugglers with zero subs killing zeus dios.jpg"

I trust them on this. GungHo ALWAYS delivers, whether or not they decide to change their mind and nerf it in the future.

I'm sure they have more tricks up their sleeve that'll make up for it. I don't know about you guys, but I'm freaking STOKED.

*NEWS*

4 new JP monsters just released, almost as OP as juggler.
They are meant to be GF exclusive

1. 1 Heart combo 2x ATK, 2 Heart combos 6x ATK.

2. Increase ATK when 3 consecutive heart orbs are matched, damage increases with the number of consecutive heart orbs matched up to 6x. (Similar to hero gods)

3. 3x ATK when fire, fire, light/ fire, light, light combos are matched. 6x ATK when fire, fire, light, light combos are matched.

4. 3x ATK when wood, wood, dark/ wood, dark, dark combos are matched. 6x ATK when wood, wood, dark, dark combos are matched.




I'm super hyped! But does this also mean this new generation of God will be taking over the PAD universe?

Two Hyper Jugglers can't take Dios's 14000 preemptive.

Only 1 and 2 come close because they both take the same amount of orbs and the same or less combos. 3 and 4 need at least 4 combos and 12 orbs to get near juggler's multiplier. But that said, these are all Godfest exclusives, juggler is a collab REM monster meaning he's much easier to get.

What's it going to take to have a forever Tyrant-less metagame? First Seraph Lucifer, then Red Sonia, now Juggler...

oh god, a square enix guy is getting death threat from upping the power creep. that is just weird. o.O

...Only "slightly"? I'd hate to see what his definition of "overpowered" is, if *49 ATK isn't sufficient. An easy-to-activate *100?

Or maybe he thinks he's doing GungHo a favor by giving them a supreme chase rare. Might also be an attempt at sneak advertising. If you see Juggler all the time, it's more visibility for Crystal Defenders...

Just to let you know, this guy doesn't even know what row enhancements are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YF6NywsjTQ Check it. This is the idiot from Square Enix responsible for "balancing" FF/FFCD collab content.

Well, I guess Square Enix saw P&D as competition...

Well, given the outcry, I sense GungHo doing its own retroactive rebalancing of Catch.

I'm guessing he was banking on the fact that the average starting field will have just five heal orbs (30/6), without taking actives (and skill awakenings) into account.


EDIT: Only it turns out that this could put GungHo in breach of contract with Square--they apparently have to accept the Crystal Defenders critters as is. Now add in Hata intentionally making Juggler as strong as he could without breaking the game...or so he thought, anyway. Now I'm all but convinced his main concern was ensuring Crystal Defenders visibility by making Juggler a certain appearance on ally lists. One begins to worry what the Final Fantasy collaboration will look like, if this really was Hata's idea of strongest possible without game-breaking. Will it be between Juggler and the Dragon Ball characters?

{sigh} New idea for minimizing Juggler's damage--make a few new descents that preclude duplicates, like Sandalphon's. Hard to get a *49 when you can only have one Juggler (at least, I think it prevents you having both the basal and evolved versions, too).


EDIT THE SECOND: The PAD Forum has a second opinion about that video--Hata was intentionally playing as weakly as possible while still being able to clock the dungeons. It's rather unlikely that he would fail to form a row even by accident...

That might explain why Chocobo is "protected."

ya do realize that vid was made a bit before awakenings came out, right. i could be wrong, but another factor could be he didnt have any awakenings on that team, because it was still only or month or 2 into awakenings. If im not mistaken , awakenings came out around early 2014, which is exactly what timeframe this vid was put out. Now, im not defending this idiot for juggler, but i wont barrage him with hate for this vid.

Yup

Its potential damage output is absolutely fudging insane. The LS is very active skill reliant, but it seems like it could clear an insane amount of content.

It's theoretically balanced- before actives or with the wrong team, you've got a huge need for the right orb drops and you're only using one attacking combo normally. At the same time, basically everything else about them makes up for it and they combo absurdly well with pandora. It's not super reliable, but not many of the x7 options really are when it comes down to it, and they're a lot easier to use.

tldr; Balanced in theory but absurdly strong in practice with the right team.

I wanted a D/D batman for draggie. my batman pulls?

D/W batman
D/L batman
robin
catgirl
catgirl
robin

in that order. it's not about gold/ not gold, it's about what you are rolling for, lol

If collab gold egg rates are 10%, and there's 4 possible gold eggs from the FF collab machine, your chance should be 2.5% or .025

But everyone knows the real chance for gold eggs is 0%! :P

All 3 Batmans in 5 pulls. Honestly I wish my luck transferred to a different REM

Skill boost awakens and heart orb changers? :o

why do people say cards are broken someone said to me that XQ was broken but it didnt make any sense

I doubt ANY country will ever see this collar besides JP. GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY YOU DOLLS

While i have to say all your points are true, there are something that are not possible. One, its illegal to nerf a card that people already "bought".
Ronia and LuBu is cancer for sure, but its not really just NA, jap uses them excessively too. have you seen their PC godfest line ups, Ronia is always in the top 3 consistently.
If juggler says anything, its that Future leads are bound to no doubt going to get the same treatment he has gotten, if Juggler is a test run to see if something like this is broken, they it wouldn't make sense not to scale monsters to its power level.
The PAD community already has estimated Horus's new awakenings will put him in the range of a 74-98x multiplier as long as you can fulfill the requirements for the awakening's activations.(while is relatively easy actually for 2/3 of them).
Perhaps every other cards will get similar treatment like Horus will be getting, in that case they will probably trump Juggler in time.

Trust me, i wont even have the luck to get it. Plus, having friends with them is like probably SUPER rare.

Seeing that I have been downvoted, I do realize that my suggestion is too unrealistic.

Or, if it is about my saying that Juggler is overpowered, please enlighten me if I have overlooked its weakness, and how does it not being unfair to leaders such as Ra and Sarasvati.

(I do not hold any grudge against Juggler though, I like all these characters since I played FFTA and FFTA2.)

Sounds like something a King David descend would have (and, if possible, use your team's cost & rarity against you).

No they don't. They already have several broken units.

They've probably got more "broken" monsters in store for the next pantheon or the next set of ultimates. The game's constantly changing all the time. What seems broken now will seem like just a stepping stone in the future.

New monster
LS:if you match 3 heart combos, *15 atk.
Active Skill: spawn 9 hearts

You're sure we'll never see descent bosses that can weather a *49 attack?

Funny how you mention 49x because juggler does not work with 49x when you factor in things like orb changers, rows and enhanced orbs. Juggler is broken beyond repair because all he needs are 2 sets of heal orbs, this leaves you with 24 other orbs to attack with. Just imagine this:
Juggler/ult pandora/D/R luci/lu bu/ult pandora/juggler
Use jugglers active, use pandora (this gives a board full of dark and heart orbs, in the best case scenario you get 12 heart orbs and 18 dark orbs, giving you 3 rows), use luci to enhance the 18 dark orbs and use lu bu. I can't do the math for you but just take this from me, there is no boss in in PAD that can take such a beating.
very rough estimate: 7x7x3x1.75x1.30x1.70x2x2.5= 2842x attack.
7x7 = jesters leader skill
3x1.75x1.30x1.70 = three dark rows that are enhanced
2x = 5 combo's
2.5x = lu bu active

Now take jugglers insane base attack of 1.9k and we are talking about 5.4 million damage per juggler. 10.8 million damage on two jugglers. There is no monster in pad with more than 7 million health so thats why he is horribly broken. This guy doesn't need recovery nor hp when he can dish out this kind of damage.

because its not very funny

no this is patrick

but this is the juggler..

Why would you even bother with U&Y when this monster is easier to activate and deal more damage

Depends on the kinds of creatures you like to use. (Me? Sun Quan and Cao Cao, meaning Juggler isn't going much of anywhere.)

but... it's devil type

it should be one true devil then

Guessing devil bc of how op e1 thinks he is? He looks amazing but if I had him im pretty sure the game would be a little too boring :(

Lets think of it this way, assuming you are one of the many others who actually spent years of effort trying to raise an effective team but only to find out that there is this 'op' card out there which is able to do pretty much the same or even better. Also bear in mind this card does not drop easy, it totally depend on luck.
So right now, years of effort being beaten by a moment of shear luck, how fair is it to those people? Not to mention this collab might not even come to US but we are still gonna deal with same descends as JP server.

what about all the stones! Think of the stones!

Another thing, now that Juggler x7 is a thing, new descends and stuff will be balanced around him/counter against him. When that happens, how will weaker leaders contend with that? Also keep in mind that we (NA) won't get Juggler, but we'll still get the descends with upped difficulty.

It can be argued that dual heroes (especially dual Pandora), thanks to their row awakenings in ultimate form, can keep a more consistent pace than Juggler. So we probably have something in the heroes, at least, to keep pace with new descents.

The only issue is that newer dungeons might come out with mechanics to curb with juggler. And Pandora having quite similar traits to juggler (Dark type, Devil type) might comes to suffer in the process(i.e. Dark absorb abilities from bosses, Devil type restricted dungeon). I run a Pandora team as well, it is just i am having mixed feelings about the game's progression and how it is heading at the moment.

Anubis also requires the most skill and is much more intensive with setting up the board. This little guy, however, only requires players to count to 6 or so. Not only that, but dark types have a large pool of powerful orb changers and heartmakers, and if you're really feeling OP, orb enhancers and damage multipliers.

Anubis is still the hardest hitting, but let's face it, not everyone is going to be able to use him without looking like a complete idiot and blowing stones (wish I could find a certain youtuber who fits this example), so for what this guy requires, he is ridiculously strong.

and you can't combine two prong or row enhance with anubis teams. this guy can.

Here's one!
Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXT_gf3Qv5yZisVXCEZjOOQ
Example video (Sandalphon):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFrbRaqfJOk

LOL you work in a children's hospital and you go and mock ppl and call them kids or 12 year olds, what a nice person you are. what do you do anyway? pick up the dam phone and refer ppl who is more knowledgeable than you. Well no sh1i7 i see your dumba$$ comments everywhere i go, 90% of pages contain your negative bs just so you can be acknowledged. You bit1ch more than Stan and his wicked ladies.

The thing is, that Pandora just blows this whole thing wide open. Juggler/Pandora/Pandora/Joker/???/Juggler has very consistent damage. Stalling becomes the only real concern as you are eliminating heart orbs whenever you nova. But with Juggler + Pandora, whatever boss you are focusing is eating millions of dark damage to the face.

Juggler teams have already cleared challenge dungeon 10 without much effort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jDsgv7S5ik

Wow nEpGeAr is on point, and that video belongs to Nate himself. Who cares about skill, here is his month's rent money.

Juggler outdamages Anubis. Look at the Numbers. Row enhances plus x49. Why do you think ronia is so strong with her 6.25 multipler? This guy can can do the same row set up 1~2 rows with 5~6 combos and put out 3~5 million per sub. Anubis doesn't even do that consistently and when he does it requires a perfect 10~15 combos.

I talk behind a computer? Speak for yourself is it not the same for you too? What is the point in even mentioning that, did i even said i wanted to punch you in the face?? How you know im not like this in person. You dont like it when other ppl assuming about you so dont about me unless you have proof. And what sticker girls, who said they were OP wth you even talking about!?

Exactly. This whole thing (and where you first commented to me being stupid) was up at the top with the guy saying something about sticker girls and somehow has like 20 upvotes even though everybody else in that thread are not even using those examples

I work in trauma. Why don't you come find out

Lol dude i work in a childrens hospital. Why don't you come on in when your head hurts little buddy? My whole check, you probably don't even get one

You're one of those people that talk behind a computer huh? You wouldn't have this big of a mouth in person. Everybody kepts trying to blast on me here because I said a sticker girl team is crap and nobody realizes they are doing the exact same but backwards. Everybody is telling me i have to be right when they are all trying to be right. And still nobody has backed up sticker girls being OP. No they try to twist it to something else

You know what i realized, you have some weird fetish with me. Probably the one following all my comments everywhere, how sweet

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