Awoken Archdemon Lucifer

So insightful I totally agree. Kinda makes you wonder what AA lucifer's final transformation will look like O_O

Sure it looks that way but remember he has god killer as an awoken skill.

Certainly a redeeming quality in my eyes.

So on the thought of him getting "lighter" as his evolutions grow stronger I have a couple of questions.

Firstly: What do you think will be the theme of reincarnated lucifer when we get him? I know eventually we will, especially since they've started awakening the other demons and angels.

Secondly: Are there any other reincarnations that have Killers? I don't recall any off the top of my head, and actually have a fair few... If not, do you think they will trade it for another awakening when he gets a revo, or will he become the first with one?

His angel form doesn't have a devil killer either, so any thoughts?

I wonder how he'll look when he's reincarnated.. should be pretty fitting if the trend carries. (Hopefully we won't be forced to wait for too much longer)

I don't want to skill this guy up until he's reborn :'(

When is this supposed to come to us server

I love his original active maxed (5 turn mini nuke w orb enhance is no joke). But if I had 2 Luci's, I'd be tempted to Uvo both just for that God Killer awakening!

He said the OLD Eva collab specifically

Lol I maxed 2 luci both in the old eva collab. It took about 200 box spaces to horde all the starfishes and 4 months to evolve them all.

Not ever gonna do that again but still good times.

assuming ignorance so i will illuminate

the dubmythlit wasnt a skill-up for lucifer until about 6 months ago correct me if you know the actual time sixth angel has skill-upped him for significantly longer

I did the same thing, two FA Luci's in EVA. At least I didn't skill the third.

I max-skilled mine and I am not going to change him. He is my favourite and I use him daily. But, when I get a second one, I will create this guy.

Also max skilled mine with the Eva collab....But I just ult evo'd him anyways XD This is his destiny! To be a mad powerhouse ^_~ Guess I'll have to max skill him again. Labor of love or something like that...

Why didn't u skill him up with Dublyths? Takes much less box space :-)

And how should i know when he skilled up his luci? There had been an EVA collab since the dub skill up, so it could be he is the ignorant one? ;-)This reply has been flagged as spam  Show

Why is that feature disturbing, it looks like Kirito`s Elucidator

WAAAAAAIIIT A MINUTE!!!!!! eLUCIdator.........

that couldn`t have been a coincidence.......especially with the SAO hye going on when this guy was revealed

His sword bothers me. Why are there little spikes near the handle?

i dunno if its all my gaming, but the "heavenly" looking characters are usually more evil than the ones that look the part

Imagine this god killer on an awoken ra team with Lu bu active. That's a 750x dmg multiplier for this card alone.

Now with the reincarnated form of Ra I think he inflicts a max of 450x but I'm probably wrong. When I started typing this reply, I was thinking that a God Killer on Ra would make him seriously overpowered but it can be a real PITA to make an all attribute combo for every single turn. I guess if you ran ReRa lead and helper and had all max skilled Light Kali subs, most dungeons would be a cakewalk. As long as locked orbs or something similar didn't get in your way and as long as there was no Resolve and nothing that absorbs damage over a certain amount, etc you could breeze through the game.

That's one of the things I love about this game and has kept me logging in every single day for 940+ consecutive days, they create new tactics to ensure that just inflicting a ton of damage is no guarantee that you can beat a dungeon. They add things that require a little finesse and sometimes a lot of skill. I really thought I'd get bored once I had a max skilled copy of almost every single boss monster in the game but GungHo adds enough new features to keep even my ADD mind focused.

2-3 months usually

Ok thanks

Double A. Luci leads

Subs :

- Ult Pandora
- Sleeping Beauty
- D/D Haku
- Summer Valk - Regular DValk

This team has everything, if you happen to have Summer Valk (yes, I'm lucky^^)

Sleeping Beauty for the bind clear
2 heart makers (Pandora, sleeping beauty)
100% skill lock
12 rows

Depending on the dungeon, you can sub in a D/W Batman (Skill Lock) or Lu Bu (extra rows) for the spike. Goetia or Hadar for the enhance (preferably Goetia because of low cooldown+orb creation)

It's a rather luxury team, but with for example an ult Vampire and a Drawn Joker, you can make a farmable team with less rows, but easily obtainable.

Being that a prolific minority of A. AD Luci owners-to-be will be converting their YomiDra teams, YD herself is extremely viable as the bind-clearer. Not that SB isn't the next-best and most available.

Mitsuhide and Castor are other new additions that really round out Luci's game.

Referring to this Arena clear? :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US6vmpE-3-A

There's couple factors I believe everyone is missing with an active like Luci here.

-Firstly not everyone has a Ra or Rodin to kill an extreme metal dragon, so I'm happy for having this active.

-Not all actives are intended as boss killers. Unlike Ra who multi kills all the defensive small fry before the big boss in one shot, Luci can kill off the couple that would be an issue and allow the player to stall on one that boasts the least danger to get all skills ready. His LS certainly allows for easier stalling. How often has there been a Tama with 2 powerful henchmen right before a boss that you wish you could wait a few extra turns on?

-Try to consider the power of having 2 Luci leaders over just 1. 2 Lucis can do 300k and also allows for LS activation. Although I do think it more worthwhile to manage your orbs so you can use them one after the other.

-And lastly, expect to see in future multiple rounds of super defensive monsters with over 100k hp or one with over 200k hp that even 2 Ra couldn't kill with actives.

Don't forget that he spawns dark orbs with his skill, so it's actually really useful

Lol didn't see the part about Gamble Mage, my bad. I do think that fixed damage part of his active could be really useful though. You could use it to oneshot Extreme King Metal, and it could also be handy for breaking an enemies resolve, since resolve seems to be all the rage these days. I think fixed damage plus 3 dark orbs every eight turns seems pretty reasonable.

I don't mean to discredit you, but how often will you be able to take a boss out of its perseverance range with a 150k nuke? Lets say the average resolve enemy has 6mil health. That means you have to have them within 2.5% of their perseverance break. That's like 10 pixels on your phone.

That's... my point. He spawns three Dark orbs, as many as Gamble Mage. The only difference in the actives is that you have to wait twice as long for Lucifer's active to come back up (even though those Dark orbs he's making are essentially and need to be churned out as frequently as possible) just so you can get a single-target true damage attack, which is great as a niche, but doesn't really justify the four extra turns. As a row leader, making Dark orbs are easily the most important part of his active, and the active is kind of dragged down by the true damage because it adds so many turns for a far more situational active.

You definitely have a point, I've also been comparing his active to Awoken Ra and in my opinion, even though they're completely different leaders, overall in their respective situation Ra's active is better than Luci's. 3 extra seconds of move time is much more useful to Ra, than 3 random dark orbs are to Luci. Plus having a multi-target fixed-damage at 77k is much better, and more useful in the majority of situations that you might find yourself in. Not only that, but there are very few, if any enemies with between 77k and 150k hp with high defense. Really the only thing you see are floors with multiple high defense/low hp mobs or fatty dragon.

It's entirely possible to have missed the current shift in dark Arena 2 teams towards double AD Luci (over Yomidra, where she's now his sub). Predras are messing up a ton of Arena 1 teams, but he basically functions like Yomidra without the need for 30 dark resists (and uses Mitsuhide to greater effect).

The only mat I have left to get for my favorite Fallen Angel is a Satan, and oh my, Satan's in the current Coin Dungeons... how convenient!

**edit** Actually Satan just showed up in the Descended lineup for Wednesday. Sweet!

I really can't wait for this uevo to come out! My new devil team line up will look like this:

A.Lucifer
Ronia
Akechi
D/G Persephone
A.Loki
A.Lucifer

11 Skill boost, 5 Skill lock and 13 Rows!!

Biggest weakness will be skill bind. :(

I would trade ronia for something else here, a.haku , pandora, sleeping beauty or aamir for bind clear, etc.

Don't u have 100% skill bind resistance? Why are skill binds a problem?

I think you mean weak to regular binds? It's very difficult to have both resistance to binds and skill binds, but as mentioned, switch out ronia for Aamir, Halloween Alraune (waste of her 2 skill binds) or Sleeping beauty. Ronia only adds 1 row and a very nice orb change, but putting in a bind resist would be just perfect. The damage output with 1 row less would be still amazing, but you'll have an easier time getting to the bosses. Especially Sleeping Beauty would be nice. A TPA for clearing the non-boss floors, bind resist, bind clear AND a rare devil heart maker. Heart making works better in this high RCV team then a 4000hp recovery of Aamir. Of course, Aamir is farmable :-)

My team will be :
A. Lucifer
Ult Pandora
D/D Haku
Summer Claire
Sleeping Beauty

A. Lucifer friend lead

12 rows, tons of skill boosts, tpa's, full board change, bind resist+clear, 100% skill resist, 2 heart makers, quick orb change (heart break if I don't need the rcv from the heart making). The only thing missing here, is either a spike or a orb enhancer. I have both (D/W Batman and Goetia), When I don't need that much orb changers or skill/bind resist. Goetia is also an orb changer, but doesn't add any row enhance.

And of course, HP and RCV are huge because of Lucifer's LS. I also have 2 extra Haku's for dungeons with heavy Jammer/Poison mobs, but I still need to max skill them all :-)

I feel kinda blessed with my devil options :-)

Yes, I did switch out Ronia with D/D Haku. A.Loki is the flex sub spot depending on the descends.

My only concern now is do I turn my D/D Haku into A.Haku? I'm saving up MP for a Yomi Dragon and I know A.Haku is very useful on that team with Okuni too, so I'm slowing leaning that way...

For Yomi dragon, A. Haku is much better then D/D haku. It depends on what team you'll be mostly running. Yomidra would be the better lead, but then you'll need a maxed plussed team for the HP. For end game content, I'd choose A. Haku for Yomidra. If you're already investing in A. Luci (like me), I'd stay with D/D haku

Don't u mean 2016?

NOW!

Around April or May 2017

yes

Not unless you don't have any other dark devil/gods. I should be more Specific though.

His stats are great for his leader skill, so having 4 on a team would be good in the team stats department. Also awakenings are good with all those rows and skill bind resists, and of course God Killer. However, that many skill boosts become pretty superfluous. You're talking 12 on the lucifers alone. They're only useful if you're bringing along a card with a really long CD to be up at the beginning of the dungeon.

The biggest downside is his active. The true damage is really great when it's needed, but that is way too infrequently to justify bringing 4 actives. Not considering the damage, it's just an 8 turn, 3 dark orb spawn. Pretty bad. You'll want to fill your subs with utility and orb makers.

Just think that Lucifers damage multiplier isn't that high, so he needs things like shields, delays, damage multipliers, and orb enhances to help with his tank and spank play style. DMeta, Pandora, Akechi, Awoken Loki, DIzanami, Lu Bu are just some I thought of off the top of my head that would all help you a lot more than additional Lucifers.

Not that high of a Multiplier? He has a 4x multiplier on a team that can easily have 10-13 rows. Seems pretty good to me.

On topic now, he's not that good of a sub for himself, since his LS is conditional. It will be hard to trigger if you don't have a sufficient orb supply. Double orb changers or full board changers (Persephone, D/D Haku, Zuoh), quick orb changers (DValk, Hanzo) and heart makers (Pandora, Sleeping Beauty) are your subs. The 4th spot can be taken by a utility sub : enhance (Goetia, Hadar), defense (DIzanami, DMeta) or spike (A. Loki, Lu Bu, Baddie, D/W Batman)

thx guys :) since i dont have too many row focused dark gods and devils ill sub the 2 awoken lucifers with a diadem and gryps rider vec fin for orb change and max row damage even tho diadem does not get god or devil multiplier. The actives are low cool down and diadem can create a row at will.

I'd suggestie farming for a Vamp or Drawn Joker, since they benefit from Luci's LS. Vamp doesn't have rows, but he's a quick orb changer, which you really need for Luci. Another farmable option would be Chaos Devil Dragon, although his awakening are useless, he has decent stats and an orb change. Hadar had very good stats, row enhance, but doesn't have an orb change. I wouldn't suggest him, unless you notice you can miss the 3 orbs from one of you Luci's and need more burst damage output.

Also, if you really want to focus on your luci team, you should choose your REM Rolls wisely. For example, only pull from the REM during Midnight Gala or during a specific pantheon (greco roman for persephone, heroes for Pandora ...). I would even go as far as saying not to roll during godfests with high godfest exclusive rate, since the GFE's don't really have good subs for luci.

Good luck

You could try farm Gravis. His negative RCV shouldn't be a problem, but you might want to raise it to 0 or 97. Starting from zero, he doesn't bring your other card's RCV down anymore, and you'll have plenty of RCV from your other cards. He does add a huge amount of HP and he benefits from the complete LS (devil/physical).

Aamir is also a farmable bind clearing devil, but he isn't a heart breaker, of course.

If you're only looking for heart breaking without the bind clearing, then Vamp is your way to go.

None of the above have rows, but all of them are farmable and benefit from Luci's stat boost.

Good luck!

Thank you @Cornykova, I'll play around with that 5th sub spot, I thought it would be a utility spot, more dungeon specific. I have a sad addiction to devil/dark cards and teams so i have options. If i could just teach myself to match orbs better I'd just use my A. Ra but for some reason i seem incapable of doing so. I'll keep at it and hopefully come up with a team I can finally beat the last few dungeons.

For a dark utility spot, Dark Izanami is a great farmable sub for dark teams. She's not Devil, but does have the god typing. She's considered a staple card in many end game dungeons, because of the duration of her shield.

As for comboing : I'm level 317 and I still don't know how to combo 5-7 on each board. There are som very good tutorials on YouTube and you can also learn from just watching those vids.
Best way to practice combo's (or any team setup), is the Endless corridors. You don't need stamina, so it doesn't matter if you fail. It's the perfect practice during the time your stamina's refilling.