Naga






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1 By dimpiedots 3 months ago ( 6.5.2 ) Finally got one from Fire Forest Nerva after farming for 2 weeks! So happy :) 0 tanteiRE 2 months ago ( 6.5.5 ) A couple months back when I knew next to nothing about PAD, I got this from the PEM, and thinking it was worthless, I sold it. (Same thing happened with Cupid and some of the Ripper Dragons). I don't think I've ever regretted as much. That ended today, when after farming Serpent Loved by Flame (Hyperion Lava Flow) during the 1.5x drop about 5 times, the boss Echidna finally dropped :) 1 By Hahahahaha 2 months ago ( 6.5.5 ) Caught 3 of this beautiful mermaid thanks to Scarlet Snake Princess =D 0 Eric 2 months ago ( 6.5.5 ) Same! This was an insane drop rate this weekend for me. I got 3 in 7 or 8 tries. 0 By Bibbo 9 months ago ( 6.3.1 ) If I'm looking to farm Nagas to skill up my Echidna, am I best off farming Flame Snake Woman (Volcano of Vulcan dungeon) for the three Naga chances, or is the drop rate worse in those earlier dungeons? 3 phil 9 months ago ( 6.3.1 ) Scarlet Snake Princess is coming this weekend (2.222.23), I'd suggest saving your stam for now and just heavily farming there 0 I am interested in the answer to his question, though. Disregarding limited time dungeons and random machine pulls, what is the best standard dungeon (normal or technical) to try for this monster? Is the drop rate the same for every dungeon for which Naga may appear? If so, logic dictates the least expensive dungeon in terms of stamina would be one's best bet. 0 By SoulWiz 3 months ago ( 6.5.2 ) got her from pal machine with 2000 pal point roll!!! now have almost complete haku team just needs the snake dungeon to come again for skill lv up.. ( been almost 3 months..should come soon i hope ) 0 By ren 3 months ago ( 6.5.2 ) i just got 1 on Fire Worshipping Snake Drop x1.5 on 1st try i did it today =) 0 By Eric 2 months ago ( 6.5.5 ) Scarlet Snake princess  EXPERT dungeon has been an amazing drop spot for me. I have got 3 this weekend so far and tried it 7 or 8 times. Best drop chance I have ever had on her. 0 PTJ@PF 2 months ago ( 6.5.5 ) Well it's really the only reasonable place to skillup your Echidna anyway. Its droprate may be a lot lower than many would want, but it's still possible to skill up Echidna for a relatively low price if you spam Expert and stamina refills. 1 By Mizraim 7 months ago ( 6.4.3 ) Anyone willing to trade Naga for Archangel Lucifer? Yes, I'm Rank 20, and yes I still have my Trade. I have two Lucifers and I'm trying to get Naga's Ultimate. Last edited by Mizraim 7 months ago ( 6.4.3 ) 3 I guess I misunderstood the 'present' system... and I got taken advantage of. 0 Matt 6 months ago ( 6.4.4 ) What is this trade you speak of? I'll give you Naga for Lucifer! Last edited by Matt 6 months ago ( 6.4.4 ) 0 I didn't know trading monsters was a possibility in this game. How is it done? 0 *facepalm* Sorry if I sounded like an axe but it's NOT a possibility. I'm guessing Mizraim interpreted the present system incorrectly. It does NOT allow you to gift a monster of your choosing to a friend; it allows both of you to roll a special egg machine. The machine only gives out starters and present eggs (from what I remember) and the roll is guaranteed to have 3 + values stacked on it. Also, while the game says you can only gift once, you CAN gift more than once; Gungho occasionally allows players to gift again now and then. 0 You will only know if you see the option one day after having already gifted. It will probably be long after you sent your first gift however. 1 By Hieu Sky 6 months ago ( 6.4.3 ) Just keep trying in Volcano of Vulcan / Flame Snake Woman, but at boss, kill one at a time, this will increase drop rate, this how i got Naga, and mermaid 0 PTJ@PF 4 months ago ( 6.5.2 ) Drop rates are predetermined upon entering a dungeon. You might as well speedrun the whole thing if you want a Naga faster. 
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RO ACE Collab 
(m) = main encounter
(s) = sub encounter
Assumptions for calculations:
Stam = 100
Drop rate = 2% = .02 (unless otherwise stated)
Normal dungeons:
A) 3 naga(m) @ 5 stam : Volcano of Vulcan/Flame Snake Woman
B) 1 naga(m) @ 7 stam : Fire Forest Nerva/FireWorshiping Snake
C) 1 naga(m) @ 9 stam : Castle of Satan/Witches Ball  Bonus: 1 Lilith(m)
D) 1 naga(m) @ 9 stam : Tower of Flare/Dance of Flame and Light  Bonus: 1 Cupid(m)
E) 1 naga(m) @ 9 stam : Tower of Nature/Great Wheel of Fire  Bonus: 1 Dryad(m)
F) 2 naga(m/s) @ 10 stam : Hyperion Lava Flow/Serpent Loved by Flame (One sub, one main encounter)
***Note: The following main encounters will be assumed to be 5% (.05) drop rate being higher tier
G) 1 naga(m) @ 13 stam : Vest Cave/Underground Fire Lake  Bonus: 1 Dryad(s) & 1 Siren(s)
H) 1 naga(s) @ 13 stam : Frozen Soil of Prosell/Frozen Castle  Bonus: 1 Dryad(s) & 1 Siren(m)
I) 1 naga(s) @ 13 stam : Mars Crater/Shooting Star Woods  Bonus: 1 Siren(s) & 1 Dryad(m)
J) 1 naga(s) @ 14 stam : Jupiter, City in the sky/Claw of Judgement  Bonus: 1 Lilith(s) & 1 Cupid(m)
Special Dungeon:
***Note: The following main encounters will be assumed to be 5% (.05) drop rate for being a special Int/Novice and assuming an average of one trash mob
K) ~3 naga(m) @ 15 stam : Scarlet Snake Princess(Int/Novice)
***Note: The following main encounters will be assumed to be 15% (.15) drop rate being Expert and assuming an average of one trash mob
L) ~3 naga(m) @ 15 stam : Scarlet Snake Princess(Expert)
Monday's drop rate increases of x1.5
Fire Forest Nerva
Hyperion Lava Flow
Vesta Cave

Basic Normal:
A) Probability in one run: (3 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98^3) = .0588 or 5.88%
Stam use: (100/5) = 20 = 20 runs
probability: (20 independent .0588 events) = 1  (.9412^20) = .7018 = a 70.18% chance of getting one naga drop
B) Probability in one run: (1 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98) = .02 or 2%
Stam use: (100/7) = 14.29 = 14 runs
probability: (14 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98^14) = .2464 = a 24.64% chance of getting one naga drop
C) Probability in one run: (1 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98) = .02 or 2%
Stam use: (100/9) = 11.11 = 11 runs
probability: (11 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98^11) = .1993 = a 19.93% chance of getting one naga drop
D) Probability in one run: (1 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98) = .02 or 2%
Stam use: (100/9) = 11.11 = 11 runs
probability: (11 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98^11) = .1993 = a 19.93% chance of getting one naga drop
E) Probability in one run: (1 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98) = .02 or 2%
Stam use: (100/9) = 11.11 = 11 runs
probability: (11 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98^11) = .1993 = a 19.93% chance of getting one naga drop
F) Probability in one run: (2 independent .02 events) = 1  (.98^2) = .0396 or 3.96%
Stam use: (100/10) = 10 = 10 runs
probability: (10 independent .0396 events) = 1  (.9604^10) = .3324 = a 33.24% chance of getting one naga drop
G) Probability in one run: (1 independent .05 events) = 1  (.95) = .05 or 5%
Stam use: (100/13) = 7.69 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .05 events) = 1  (.95^7) = .3016 = a 30.16% chance of getting one naga drop
H) Probability in one run: (1 independent .05 events) = 1  (.95) = .05 or 5%
Stam use: (100/13) = 7.69 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .05 events) = 1  (.95^7) = .3016 = a 30.16% chance of getting one naga drop
I) Probability in one run: (1 independent .05 events) = 1  (.95) = .05 or 5%
Stam use: (100/13) = 7.69 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .05 events) = 1  (.95^7) =.3016 = a 30.16% chance of getting one naga drop
J) Probability in one run: (1 independent .05 events) = 1  (.95) = .05 or 5%
Stam use: (100/14) = 7.14 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .05 events) = 1  (.95^7) = .3324 = .3016 = a 30.16% chance of getting one naga drop
Monday Bonus Normal
(.02 X 1.5)=.03 ; (.05 X 1.5)=.075
B) Probability in one run: (1 independent .03 events) = 1  (.97) = .03 or 3%
Stam use: (100/7) = 14.29 = 14 runs
probability: (14 independent .03 events) = 1  (.97^14) = .3472 = a 34.71% chance of getting one naga drop
F) Probability in one run: (2 independent .03 events) = 1  (.97^2) = .0591 or 5.91%
Stam use: (100/10) = 10 = 10 runs
probability: (10 independent .0591 events) = 1  (.9409^10) = .4562 = a 45.62% chance of getting one naga drop
G) Probability in one run: (1 independent .075 events) = 1  (.925) = .075 or 7.5%
Stam use: (100/13) = 7.69 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .075 events) = 1  (.925^7) = .4206 = a 42.06% chance of getting one naga drop
Special:
K) Probability in one run: (3 independent .05 events) = 1  (.95^3) = .1426 or 14.26%
Stam use: (100/15) = 6.67 = 6 runs
probability: (6 independent .1426 events) = 1  (.8574^6) = .6027 = a 60.27% chance of getting one naga drop
L) Probability in one run: (3 independent .15 events) = 1  (.85^3) = .3859 or 38.59%
Stam use: (100/15) = 6.67 = 6 runs
probability: (6 independent .3859 events) = 1  (.6141^6) = .4206 = a 94.64% chance of getting one naga drop
If all assumptions are correct, and without adjusting for individual stamina, then:
The best way to farm the naga is in the special dungeon  Scarlet Snake Princess(Expert)
Alternatively, the best way to farm the naga is in the regular dungeon  Volcano of Vulcan/Flame Snake Woman (Even over other dungeons with the x 1.5 drop rate of other dungeons, and over Scarlet Snake Princess Int/Novice)
3 nagas on flame snake woman does not mean that each of them has 0.02 chance. I believe the boss room itself has 0.02 of generating a drop, and after that it will pick one of the monsters there, and in this case, all of them are the same monster. So total 0.02 for the room to drop an egg.
I don't have evidence for this claim but it seems consistence with my and others' experience. Not only in this dungeon but for any boss stage.
However... I have been trying to farm Naga, and I have been keeping track of how many runs and how many naga have dropped... and Volcano of Vulcan/Flame Snake Woman is not looking so good. I am at 543 runs and no naga's yet. I figured I would hit 600 then start farming a different dungeon, and I will focus on one that has only one naga at an assumed to be higher drop rate and see how that works. Nothing like actual sample data when you are given no real rate data.